From: Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>
To: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Cc: Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, RCU <rcu@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"Paul E . McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
"Theodore Y . Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
Oleksiy Avramchenko <oleksiy.avramchenko@sonymobile.com>,
Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>
Subject: Re: [RFC-PATCH 2/4] mm: Add __rcu_alloc_page_lockless() func.
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2020 11:37:00 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200930153700.GA1472573@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <795d6aea-1846-6e08-ac1b-dbff82dd7133@suse.cz>
On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 04:39:53PM +0200, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> On 9/30/20 12:07 AM, Uladzislau Rezki wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 12:15:34PM +0200, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> >> On 9/18/20 9:48 PM, Uladzislau Rezki (Sony) wrote:
> >>
> >> After reading all the threads and mulling over this, I am going to deflect from
> >> Mel and Michal and not oppose the idea of lockless allocation. I would even
> >> prefer to do it via the gfp flag and not a completely separate path. Not using
> >> the exact code from v1, I think it could be done in a way that we don't actually
> >> look at the new flag until we find that pcplist is empty - which should not
> >> introduce overhead to the fast-fast path when pcpclist is not empty. It's more
> >> maintainable that adding new entry points, IMHO.
> >>
> > Thanks for reading all that from the beginning! It must be tough due to the
> > fact there were lot of messages in the threads, so at least i was lost.
> >
> > I agree that adding a new entry or separate lock-less function can be considered
> > as something that is hard to maintain. I have a question here. I mean about your
> > different look at it:
> >
> > <snip>
> > bool is_pcp_cache_empty(gfp_t gfp)
> > {
> > struct per_cpu_pages *pcp;
> > struct zoneref *ref;
> > unsigned long flags;
> > bool empty;
> >
> > ref = first_zones_zonelist(node_zonelist(
> > numa_node_id(), gfp), gfp_zone(gfp), NULL);
> > if (!ref->zone)
> > return true;
> >
> > local_irq_save(flags);
> > pcp = &this_cpu_ptr(ref->zone->pageset)->pcp;
> > empty = list_empty(&pcp->lists[gfp_migratetype(gfp)]);
> > local_irq_restore(flags);
> >
> > return empty;
> > }
> >
> > disable_irq();
> > if (!is_pcp_cache_empty(GFP_NOWAIT))
> > __get_free_page(GFP_NOWAIT);
> > enable_irq();
> > <snip>
> >
> > Do you mean to have something like above? I mean some extra API
> > function that returns true or false if fast-fast allocation can
> > either occur or not. Above code works just fine and never touches
> > main zone->lock.
> >
> > i.e. Instead of introducing an extra GFP_LOCKLESS flag or any new
> > extra lock-less function. We could have something that checks a
> > pcp page cache list, thus it can guarantee that a request would
> > be accomplish using fast-fast path.
>
> No, I meant going back to idea of new gfp flag, but adjust the implementation in
> the allocator (different from what you posted in previous version) so that it
> only looks at the flag after it tries to allocate from pcplist and finds out
> it's empty. So, no inventing of new page allocator entry points or checks such
> as the one you wrote above, but adding the new gfp flag in a way that it doesn't
> affect existing fast paths.
I like the idea of a new flag too :) After all telling the allocator more
about what your context can tolerate, via GFP flags, is not without
precedent.
thanks,
- Joel
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-09-30 15:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-09-18 19:48 [PATCH 0/4] kvfree_rcu() and _LOCK_NESTING/_PREEMPT_RT Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
2020-09-18 19:48 ` [PATCH 1/4] rcu/tree: Add a work to allocate pages from regular context Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
2020-09-18 19:48 ` [RFC-PATCH 2/4] mm: Add __rcu_alloc_page_lockless() func Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
2020-09-21 7:47 ` Michal Hocko
2020-09-21 15:45 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-09-21 16:03 ` Michal Hocko
2020-09-21 19:48 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-09-22 7:50 ` Michal Hocko
2020-09-22 13:12 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-09-22 15:35 ` Michal Hocko
2020-09-23 10:37 ` Mel Gorman
2020-09-23 15:41 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-09-23 23:22 ` Mel Gorman
2020-09-24 8:16 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-09-24 11:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-09-24 15:16 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-09-24 11:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-09-24 15:21 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-09-25 8:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-09-25 10:25 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-09-24 15:38 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-09-25 8:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-09-26 14:37 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-09-25 8:05 ` Michal Hocko
2020-09-25 15:31 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-09-25 15:47 ` Michal Hocko
2020-09-29 16:25 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-09-30 9:27 ` Michal Hocko
2020-09-30 12:35 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-09-30 12:44 ` Michal Hocko
2020-09-30 13:39 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-09-30 16:46 ` Michal Hocko
2020-09-30 20:36 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-09-30 15:25 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-09-30 16:48 ` Michal Hocko
2020-09-30 17:03 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-09-30 17:22 ` Michal Hocko
2020-09-30 17:48 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-09-25 16:17 ` Mel Gorman
2020-09-25 17:57 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-09-22 15:49 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-09-22 3:35 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-09-22 8:03 ` Michal Hocko
2020-09-22 15:46 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-09-23 11:27 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-09-29 10:15 ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-09-29 22:07 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-09-30 10:35 ` Michal Hocko
2020-10-01 19:32 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-09-30 14:39 ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-09-30 15:37 ` Joel Fernandes [this message]
2020-10-01 19:26 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-10-02 7:11 ` Michal Hocko
2020-10-02 8:50 ` Mel Gorman
2020-10-02 9:05 ` Michal Hocko
2020-10-05 15:08 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-10-05 15:41 ` Michal Hocko
2020-10-06 22:25 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-10-07 10:02 ` Michal Hocko
2020-10-07 11:02 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-10-02 9:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-02 9:45 ` Mel Gorman
2020-10-02 9:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-02 10:19 ` Mel Gorman
2020-10-02 14:41 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-10-06 10:03 ` Mel Gorman
2020-10-06 15:41 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-10-05 13:58 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-10-02 8:06 ` Mel Gorman
2020-10-05 14:12 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-09-18 19:48 ` [PATCH 3/4] rcu/tree: use " Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
2020-09-18 19:48 ` [PATCH 4/4] rcu/tree: Use schedule_delayed_work() instead of WQ_HIGHPRI queue Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
2020-09-20 15:06 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-09-21 13:27 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-09-18 22:15 ` [PATCH 0/4] kvfree_rcu() and _LOCK_NESTING/_PREEMPT_RT Paul E. McKenney
2020-09-30 15:52 ` Joel Fernandes
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