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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
To: Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>
Cc: "DRI Development" <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Daniel Vetter" <daniel.vetter@intel.com>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"John Hubbard" <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	"Jérôme Glisse" <jglisse@redhat.com>, "Jan Kara" <jack@suse.cz>,
	"Dan Williams" <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	"Linux MM" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"Linux ARM" <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"Pawel Osciak" <pawel@osciak.com>,
	"Marek Szyprowski" <m.szyprowski@samsung.com>,
	"Kyungmin Park" <kyungmin.park@samsung.com>,
	"Tomasz Figa" <tfiga@chromium.org>,
	"Inki Dae" <inki.dae@samsung.com>,
	"Joonyoung Shim" <jy0922.shim@samsung.com>,
	"Seung-Woo Kim" <sw0312.kim@samsung.com>,
	linux-samsung-soc <linux-samsung-soc@vger.kernel.org>,
	"open list:DMA BUFFER SHARING FRAMEWORK"
	<linux-media@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Oded Gabbay" <oded.gabbay@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] mm/frame-vec: use FOLL_LONGTERM
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2020 09:50:59 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201004125059.GP9916@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKMK7uFP-XQHUPYeRhPx7tjvjARQiF-os9z9jx6WANV6sgSf6g@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Oct 03, 2020 at 11:40:22AM +0200, Daniel Vetter wrote:

> > That leaves the only interesting places as vb2_dc_get_userptr() and
> > vb2_vmalloc_get_userptr() which both completely fail to follow the
> > REQUIRED behavior in the function's comment about checking PTEs. It
> > just DMA maps them. Badly broken.
> >
> > Guessing this hackery is for some embedded P2P DMA transfer?
> 
> Yeah, see also the follow_pfn trickery in
> videobuf_dma_contig_user_get(), I think this is fully intentional and
> userspace abi we can't break :-/

We don't need to break uABI, it just needs to work properly in the
kernel:

  vma = find_vma_intersection()
  dma_buf = dma_buf_get_from_vma(vma)
  sg = dma_buf_p2p_dma_map(dma_buf)
  [.. do dma ..]
  dma_buf_unmap(sg)
  dma_buf_put(dma_buf)

It is as we discussed before, dma buf needs to be discoverable from a
VMA, at least for users doing this kind of stuff.

> Yup this should be done with dma_buf instead, and v4l has that. But
> old uapi and all that. This is why I said we might need a new
> VM_DYNAMIC_PFNMAP or so, to make follow_pfn not resolve this in the
> case where the driver manages the underlying iomem range (or whatever
> it is) dynamically and moves buffer objects around, like drm drivers
> do. But I looked, and we've run out of vma->vm_flags :-(

A VM flag doesn't help - we need to introduce some kind of lifetime,
and that has to be derived from the VMA. It needs data not just a flag

> The other problem is that I also have no real working clue about all
> the VM_* flags and what they all mean, and whether drm drivers set the
> right ones in all cases (they probably don't, but oh well).
> Documentation for this stuff in headers is a bit thin at times.

Yah, I don't really know either :\

The comment above vm_normal_page() is a bit helpful. Don't know what
VM_IO/VM_PFNMAP mean in their 3 combinations

There are very few places that set VM_PFNMAP without VM_IO..

Jason


  reply	other threads:[~2020-10-04 12:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-02 17:53 [PATCH 1/2] mm/frame-vec: Drop gup_flags from get_vaddr_frames() Daniel Vetter
2020-10-02 17:53 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm/frame-vec: use FOLL_LONGTERM Daniel Vetter
2020-10-02 18:06   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-02 18:16     ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-02 23:31       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-03  8:34         ` Oded Gabbay
2020-10-03  9:40         ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-04 12:50           ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2020-10-04 16:09             ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-05 17:28               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-05 18:16                 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-05 18:37                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-05 18:54                     ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-05 22:43                       ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-05 23:41                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-06  6:23                           ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-06 12:26                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-06 13:08                               ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-07 10:47           ` Marek Szyprowski
2020-10-07 12:01             ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-07 12:33               ` Marek Szyprowski
2020-10-07 12:44                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-07 12:47                   ` Tomasz Figa
2020-10-07 12:58                     ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-07 13:06                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-07 13:34                         ` Tomasz Figa
2020-10-07 13:42                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-07 14:08                           ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-07 14:11                             ` Tomasz Figa
2020-10-07 14:22                               ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-07 15:05                                 ` Tomasz Figa
2020-10-07 14:58                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-07 13:06         ` Tomasz Figa
2020-10-07 13:14           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-05 15:03     ` Jan Kara
2020-10-02 22:39   ` John Hubbard
2020-10-03  9:45     ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-03 22:52       ` John Hubbard
2020-10-03 23:24         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-04 11:20           ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-05 17:35             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-02 18:22 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm/frame-vec: Drop gup_flags from get_vaddr_frames() Tomasz Figa
2020-10-02 19:21   ` Oded Gabbay
2020-10-05 17:38 [PATCH 2/2] mm/frame-vec: use FOLL_LONGTERM Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-05 17:47 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-06  3:36   ` Andrew Morton
2020-10-06 11:57     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-05 17:53 ` Jan Kara
2020-10-05 17:57   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-05 18:16     ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-06 11:56     ` Daniel Vetter

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