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From: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
To: Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>
Cc: "Michal Koutný" <mkoutny@suse.com>,
	"Richard Palethorpe" <rpalethorpe@suse.com>,
	ltp@lists.linux.it, "Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Shakeel Butt" <shakeelb@google.com>,
	"Christoph Lameter" <cl@linux.com>,
	"Michal Hocko" <mhocko@kernel.org>, "Tejun Heo" <tj@kernel.org>,
	"Vlastimil Babka" <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Michal Hocko" <mhocko@suse.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] mm: memcg/slab: Stop reparented obj_cgroups from charging root
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2020 12:30:53 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201023163053.GB535375@cmpxchg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201021193322.GA300658@carbon.dhcp.thefacebook.com>

On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 12:33:22PM -0700, Roman Gushchin wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 02:18:22PM -0400, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 10:07:17AM -0700, Roman Gushchin wrote:
> > > If we want these counter to function properly, then we should go into the opposite
> > > direction and remove the special handling of the root memory cgroup in many places.
> > 
> > I suspect this is also by far the most robust solution from a code and
> > maintenance POV.
> > 
> > I don't recall the page counter at the root level having been a
> > concern in recent years, even though it's widely used in production
> > environments. It's lockless and cache compact. It's also per-cpu
> > batched, which means it isn't actually part of the memcg hotpath.
> 
> 
> I agree.
> 
> Here is my first attempt. Comments are welcome!
> 
> It doesn't solve the original problem though (use_hierarchy == false and
> objcg reparenting), I'll send a separate patch for that.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> --
> 
> From 9c7d94a3f999447417b02a7100527ce1922bc252 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> From: Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>
> Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2020 18:05:43 -0700
> Subject: [PATCH RFC] mm: memcontrol: do not treat the root memory cgroup
>  specially
> 
> Currently the root memory cgroup is treated in a special way:
> it's not charged and uncharged directly (only indirectly with their
> descendants), processes belonging to the root memory cgroup are exempt
> from the kernel- and the socket memory accounting.
> 
> At the same time some of root level statistics and data are available
> to a user:
>   - cgroup v2: memory.stat
>   - cgroup v1: memory.stat, memory.usage_in_bytes, memory.memsw.usage_in_bytes,
>                memory.kmem.usage_in_bytes and memory.kmem.tcp.usage_in_bytes
> 
> Historically the reason for a special treatment was an avoidance
> of extra performance cost, however now it's unlikely a good reason:
> over years there was a significant improvement in the performance
> of the memory cgroup code. Also on a modern system actively using
> cgroups (e.g. managed by systemd) there are usually no (significant)
> processes in the root memory cgroup.
> 
> The special treatment of the root memory cgroups creates a number of
> issues visible to a user:
> 1) slab stats on the root level do not include the slab memory
>    consumed by processes in the root memory cgroup
> 2) non-slab kernel memory consumed by processes in the root memory cgroup
>    is not included into memory.kmem.usage_in_bytes
> 3) socket memory consumed by processes in the root memory cgroup
>    is not included into memory.kmem.tcp.usage_in_bytes
> 
> It complicates the code and increases a risk of new bugs.
> 
> This patch removes a number of exceptions related to the handling of
> the root memory cgroup. With this patch applied the root memory cgroup
> is treated uniformly to other cgroups in the following cases:
> 1) root memory cgroup is charged and uncharged directly, try_charge()
>    and cancel_charge() do not return immediately if the root memory
>    cgroups is passed. uncharge_batch() and __mem_cgroup_clear_mc()
>    do not handle the root memory cgroup specially.
> 2) per-memcg slab statistics is gathered for the root memory cgroup
> 3) shrinkers infra treats the root memory cgroup as any other memory
>    cgroup
> 4) non-slab kernel memory accounting doesn't exclude pages allocated
>    by processes belonging to the root memory cgroup
> 5) if a socket is opened by a process in the root memory cgroup,
>    the socket memory is accounted
> 6) root cgroup is charged for the used swap memory.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>
> Suggested-by: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>

This looks great.

The try_charge(), cancel_charge() etc. paths are relatively
straight-forward and look correct to me.

The swap counters too.

Slab is a bit trickier, but it also looks correct to me.

I'm having some trouble with the shrinkers. Currently, tracked objects
allocated in non-root cgroups live in that cgroup. Tracked objects in
the root cgroup, as well as untracked objects, live in a global pool.
When reclaim iterates all memcgs and calls shrink_slab(), we special
case the root_mem_cgroup and redirect to the global pool.

After your patch we have tracked objects allocated in the root cgroup
actually live in the root cgroup. Removing the shrinker special case
is correct in order to shrink those - but it removes the call to
shrink the global pool of untracked allocation classes.

I think we need to restore the double call to shrink_slab() we had
prior to this:

commit aeed1d325d429ac9699c4bf62d17156d60905519
Author: Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov.dev@gmail.com>
Date:   Fri Aug 17 15:48:17 2018 -0700

    mm/vmscan.c: generalize shrink_slab() calls in shrink_node()
    
    The patch makes shrink_slab() be called for root_mem_cgroup in the same
    way as it's called for the rest of cgroups.  This simplifies the logic
    and improves the readability.

where we iterate through all cgroups, including the root, to reclaim
objects accounted to those respective groups; and then a call to scan
the global pool of untracked objects in that numa node.

For ease of review/verification, it could be helpful to split the
patch and remove the root exception case-by-case (not callsite by
callsite, but e.g. the swap counter, the memory counter etc.).


  reply	other threads:[~2020-10-23 16:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-14 19:07 Richard Palethorpe
2020-10-14 20:08 ` Roman Gushchin
2020-10-16  5:40   ` Richard Palethorpe
2020-10-16  9:47 ` Michal Koutný
2020-10-16 10:41   ` Richard Palethorpe
2020-10-16 15:05     ` Richard Palethorpe
2020-10-16 17:26       ` Michal Koutný
2020-10-16 14:53   ` Johannes Weiner
2020-10-16 17:02     ` Roman Gushchin
2020-10-16 17:15     ` Michal Koutný
2020-10-19  8:45       ` Richard Palethorpe
2020-10-19  9:58         ` [PATCH v3] " Richard Palethorpe
2020-10-19 16:58           ` Shakeel Butt
2020-10-20  5:52             ` Richard Palethorpe
2020-10-20 13:49               ` Richard Palethorpe
2020-10-20 16:56                 ` Shakeel Butt
2020-10-21 20:32                   ` Roman Gushchin
2020-10-20 17:24               ` Michal Koutný
2020-10-22  7:04                 ` Richard Palethorpe
2020-10-22 12:28                   ` [PATCH v4] " Richard Palethorpe
2020-10-22 16:37                     ` Shakeel Butt
2020-10-22 17:25                       ` Roman Gushchin
2020-10-22 23:59                         ` Shakeel Butt
2020-10-23  0:40                           ` Roman Gushchin
2020-10-23 15:44                             ` Johannes Weiner
2020-10-23 16:41                             ` Shakeel Butt
2020-10-26  7:32                             ` Richard Palethorpe
2020-10-26 23:14                               ` Roman Gushchin
2020-10-19 22:28       ` [RFC PATCH] " Roman Gushchin
2020-10-20  6:04         ` Richard Palethorpe
2020-10-20 12:02           ` Richard Palethorpe
2020-10-20 14:48         ` Richard Palethorpe
2020-10-20 16:27         ` Michal Koutný
2020-10-20 17:07           ` Roman Gushchin
2020-10-20 18:18             ` Johannes Weiner
2020-10-21 19:33               ` Roman Gushchin
2020-10-23 16:30                 ` Johannes Weiner [this message]
2020-11-10  1:27                   ` Roman Gushchin
2020-11-10 15:11                     ` Shakeel Butt
2020-11-10 19:13                       ` Roman Gushchin
2020-11-20 17:46                       ` Michal Koutný
2020-11-03 13:22                 ` Michal Hocko
2020-11-03 21:30                   ` Roman Gushchin
2020-10-20 16:55         ` Shakeel Butt
2020-10-20 17:17           ` Roman Gushchin

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