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From: "Ahmed S. Darwish" <a.darwish@linutronix.de>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/2] Add a seqcount between gup_fast and copy_page_range()
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2020 00:18:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201102231821.GA51715@lx-t490> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wj2jtBhfgpxCkgXcyOPn3YFFWeJ-vHsppocBjdFQ2F6Og@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Nov 02, 2020 at 02:39:49PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 2, 2020 at 2:19 PM Ahmed S. Darwish <a.darwish@linutronix.de> wrote:
> >
> > Disabling preemption for seqcount_t write-side critical sections was
> > never a new requirement. It has always been this way, for the reasons
> > explained at Documentation/locking/seqlock.rst, "Introduction" section.
>
> Note that that is only true if you spin on the reading side (either of
> the two kinds of spinning: (a) spinning to wait for it to become even,
> or (b) repeating if they don't match)
>
> Which this code doesn't do, it just fails.
>
> I'm not sure how to perhaps document that.
>

Sure, and this is one of the reasons the lockdep non-preemptibility
check is only added to the non-raw variants of the seqcount write APIs.

Presumably, users of the raw_*() part of the API know what they're
doing, and they don't need to read seqlock.rst :)

(I'm in progress of replying to patch #2, which touches a bit on this
 and other points)..

>              Linus

Thanks,

--
Ahmed S. Darwish
Linutronix GmbH


      reply	other threads:[~2020-11-02 23:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-30 14:46 [PATCH v2 0/2] Add a seqcount between gup_fast and copy_page_range() Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-30 14:46 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] mm: reorganize internal_get_user_pages_fast() Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-30 16:29   ` Jan Kara
2020-10-30 21:31   ` John Hubbard
2020-10-30 22:36   ` Peter Xu
2020-10-30 14:46 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] mm: prevent gup_fast from racing with COW during fork Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-30 16:51   ` Jan Kara
2020-10-30 17:02     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-11-02  8:31       ` Jan Kara
2020-10-30 21:20   ` John Hubbard
2020-10-30 22:52   ` Peter Xu
2020-10-30 23:51     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-31 15:26       ` Peter Xu
2020-11-03  0:33         ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2020-11-03  0:17       ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2020-11-03  0:25         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-11-03  0:41           ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2020-11-03  2:20             ` John Hubbard
2020-11-03  6:52               ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2020-11-03  7:05                 ` John Hubbard
2020-11-03 17:40                 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-11-04  1:32                   ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2020-11-04  2:01                     ` John Hubbard
2020-11-04  3:17                       ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2020-11-04 18:38                         ` Linus Torvalds
2020-11-10 11:53                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-11-03 17:03         ` Peter Xu
2020-11-02 23:58   ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2020-11-02 22:19 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] Add a seqcount between gup_fast and copy_page_range() Ahmed S. Darwish
2020-11-02 22:39   ` Linus Torvalds
2020-11-02 23:18     ` Ahmed S. Darwish [this message]

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