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From: Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>
To: huang ying <huang.ying.caritas@gmail.com>
Cc: "Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)" <urezki@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Hillf Danton <hdanton@sina.com>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Oleksiy Avramchenko <oleksiy.avramchenko@sonymobile.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] mm/vmalloc: rework the drain logic
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2020 14:04:34 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201117130434.GA10769@pc636> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAC=cRTN77LAn-9-6rGukc2aUZQzx7oP9eKt_hJeb=wbnhGqObQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 10:37:34AM +0800, huang ying wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 6:00 AM Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
> <urezki@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > A current "lazy drain" model suffers from at least two issues.
> >
> > First one is related to the unsorted list of vmap areas, thus
> > in order to identify the [min:max] range of areas to be drained,
> > it requires a full list scan. What is a time consuming if the
> > list is too long.
> >
> > Second one and as a next step is about merging all fragments
> > with a free space. What is also a time consuming because it
> > has to iterate over entire list which holds outstanding lazy
> > areas.
> >
> > See below the "preemptirqsoff" tracer that illustrates a high
> > latency. It is ~24 676us. Our workloads like audio and video
> > are effected by such long latency:
> 
> This seems like a real problem.  But I found there's long latency
> avoidance mechanism in the loop in __purge_vmap_area_lazy() as
> follows,
> 
>         if (atomic_long_read(&vmap_lazy_nr) < resched_threshold)
>             cond_resched_lock(&free_vmap_area_lock);
> 
I have added that "resched threshold" because of on my tests i could
simply hit out of memory, due to the fact that a drain work is not up
to speed to process such long outstanding list of vmap areas.

>
> If it works properly, the latency problem can be solved.  Can you
> check whether this doesn't work for you?
>
We have that cond_resched_lock() in our products. The patch that is
in question creates bigger vmap areas on early step(merge them), so
the final structure becomes less fragmented, what speeds up a drain
logic, thus reduces a preemption off time.

Apart of that, high priority tasks like RT or DL which are users of
the vmalloc()/vfree() can start draining process from its contexts,
what is also a problem. In that sense, i think we need to make the
vfree() call to be asynchronous, so latency sensitive tasks and others
do not perform any draining from their contexts.

--
Vlad Rezki


  reply	other threads:[~2020-11-17 13:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-16 22:00 [PATCH 1/2] mm/vmalloc: use free_vm_area() if an allocation fails Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
2020-11-16 22:00 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm/vmalloc: rework the drain logic Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
2020-11-17  2:37   ` huang ying
2020-11-17 13:04     ` Uladzislau Rezki [this message]
2020-11-18  2:44       ` huang ying
2020-11-18 16:16         ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-11-19  1:40           ` Huang, Ying
2020-11-19 17:36             ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-11-20  2:34               ` Huang, Ying
2020-11-23 13:59                 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-11-24  2:25                   ` Huang, Ying
2020-11-24 16:40                     ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-11-25  0:52                       ` Huang, Ying
2020-11-25 20:34                         ` Uladzislau Rezki

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