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From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/1] mm: restore full accuracy in COW page reuse
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2021 12:42:20 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210111124220.GE35215@casper.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <45806a5a-65c2-67ce-fc92-dc8c2144d766@nvidia.com>

On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 11:26:57PM -0800, John Hubbard wrote:
> IMHO, a lot of the bits in page _refcount are still being wasted (even
> after GUP_PIN_COUNTING_BIAS overloading), because it's unlikely that
> there are many callers of gup/pup per page. If anyone points out that
> that is wrong, then the rest of this falls apart, but...if we were to
> make a rule that "only a very few FOLL_GET or FOLL_PIN pins are ever
> simultaneously allowed on a given page", then several things become
> possible:

There's "the normal case" and then there's "the attacker case" where
someone's deliberately trying to wrap page->_refcount.  There are lots of
interesting games people can play with an anon page, like stuffing it into
(lots of) pipes, forking lots of children, starting lots of O_DIRECT I/O
against it to a FUSE filesystem that's deliberately engineered to be slow.

We have some protection against that, but I'm not 100% sure it's working,
and making it easier to increase refcount in large chunks makes it more
likely that we would defeat that protection.


  reply	other threads:[~2021-01-11 12:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-10  0:44 [PATCH 0/1] mm: restore full accuracy in COW page reuse Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-10  0:44 ` [PATCH 1/1] " Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-10  2:54   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-11 14:11     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-01-10  0:55 ` [PATCH 0/1] " Linus Torvalds
2021-01-10  1:19   ` Linus Torvalds
2021-01-10  1:37     ` Linus Torvalds
2021-01-10  3:24       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-10  2:51     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2021-01-10  3:51       ` Linus Torvalds
2021-01-10 19:30         ` Linus Torvalds
2021-01-11  1:18           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-01-11  7:26           ` John Hubbard
2021-01-11 12:42             ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2021-01-11 16:05             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-01-11 16:15               ` Michal Hocko
2021-01-11 19:19             ` Linus Torvalds
2021-01-11 22:18               ` Linus Torvalds
2021-01-12 17:07                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-01-12 23:51                 ` Jerome Glisse
2021-01-13  2:16                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-01-13  2:43                   ` Linus Torvalds
2021-01-13  3:31                   ` Linus Torvalds
2021-01-13  8:52                     ` David Hildenbrand
2021-01-13  8:57                       ` David Hildenbrand
2021-01-13 12:32                     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-01-13 12:55                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-01-13 19:54                         ` Linus Torvalds
2021-01-13 23:54           ` Peter Xu
2021-01-11 15:52       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-01-15  8:59 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-01-15 18:37   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-01-15 19:46     ` David Hildenbrand
2021-01-15 19:53       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-01-16  3:40       ` John Hubbard
2021-01-16 11:42         ` David Hildenbrand

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