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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, jannh@google.com,
	keescook@chromium.org, jeffv@google.com, minchan@kernel.org,
	shakeelb@google.com, rientjes@google.com,
	edgararriaga@google.com, timmurray@google.com,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, selinux@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kernel-team@android.com, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/1] mm/madvise: replace ptrace attach requirement for process_madvise
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2021 08:46:29 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210112074629.GG22493@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210111170622.2613577-1-surenb@google.com>

On Mon 11-01-21 09:06:22, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
> process_madvise currently requires ptrace attach capability.
> PTRACE_MODE_ATTACH gives one process complete control over another
> process. It effectively removes the security boundary between the
> two processes (in one direction). Granting ptrace attach capability
> even to a system process is considered dangerous since it creates an
> attack surface. This severely limits the usage of this API.
> The operations process_madvise can perform do not affect the correctness
> of the operation of the target process; they only affect where the data
> is physically located (and therefore, how fast it can be accessed).

Yes it doesn't influence the correctness but it is still a very
sensitive operation because it can allow a targeted side channel timing
attacks so we should be really careful.

> What we want is the ability for one process to influence another process
> in order to optimize performance across the entire system while leaving
> the security boundary intact.
> Replace PTRACE_MODE_ATTACH with a combination of PTRACE_MODE_READ
> and CAP_SYS_NICE. PTRACE_MODE_READ to prevent leaking ASLR metadata
> and CAP_SYS_NICE for influencing process performance.

I have to say that ptrace modes are rather obscure to me. So I cannot
really judge whether MODE_READ is sufficient. My understanding has
always been that this is requred to RO access to the address space. But
this operation clearly has a visible side effect. Do we have any actual
documentation for the existing modes?

I would be really curious to hear from Jann and Oleg (now Cced).

Is CAP_SYS_NICE requirement really necessary?

> Signed-off-by: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
> Acked-by: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
> Acked-by: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
> ---
>  mm/madvise.c | 13 ++++++++++++-
>  1 file changed, 12 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> 
> diff --git a/mm/madvise.c b/mm/madvise.c
> index 6a660858784b..a9bcd16b5d95 100644
> --- a/mm/madvise.c
> +++ b/mm/madvise.c
> @@ -1197,12 +1197,22 @@ SYSCALL_DEFINE5(process_madvise, int, pidfd, const struct iovec __user *, vec,
>  		goto release_task;
>  	}
>  
> -	mm = mm_access(task, PTRACE_MODE_ATTACH_FSCREDS);
> +	/* Require PTRACE_MODE_READ to avoid leaking ASLR metadata. */
> +	mm = mm_access(task, PTRACE_MODE_READ_FSCREDS);
>  	if (IS_ERR_OR_NULL(mm)) {
>  		ret = IS_ERR(mm) ? PTR_ERR(mm) : -ESRCH;
>  		goto release_task;
>  	}
>  
> +	/*
> +	 * Require CAP_SYS_NICE for influencing process performance. Note that
> +	 * only non-destructive hints are currently supported.
> +	 */
> +	if (!capable(CAP_SYS_NICE)) {
> +		ret = -EPERM;
> +		goto release_mm;
> +	}
> +
>  	total_len = iov_iter_count(&iter);
>  
>  	while (iov_iter_count(&iter)) {
> @@ -1217,6 +1227,7 @@ SYSCALL_DEFINE5(process_madvise, int, pidfd, const struct iovec __user *, vec,
>  	if (ret == 0)
>  		ret = total_len - iov_iter_count(&iter);
>  
> +release_mm:
>  	mmput(mm);
>  release_task:
>  	put_task_struct(task);
> -- 
> 2.30.0.284.gd98b1dd5eaa7-goog
> 

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs


  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-01-12  7:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-11 17:06 [PATCH v2 1/1] mm/madvise: replace ptrace attach requirement for process_madvise Suren Baghdasaryan
2021-01-11 18:33 ` Kees Cook
2021-01-12  1:22 ` Andrew Morton
2021-01-12 17:36   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2021-01-12  7:46 ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2021-01-12 17:45   ` Oleg Nesterov
2021-01-12 17:51     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2021-01-13 14:22       ` Michal Hocko
2021-01-13 18:08         ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2021-01-20 13:17         ` Jann Horn
2021-01-20 16:57           ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2021-01-20 20:46             ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2021-01-26 13:52           ` Michal Hocko
2021-01-28 19:51             ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2021-01-29  7:08               ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2021-02-02  5:34                 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
     [not found]                   ` <CAJuCfpEOE8=L1fT4FSauy65cS82M_kW3EzTgH89ewE9HudL=VA@mail.gmail.com>
2021-03-03  0:17                     ` Andrew Morton
2021-03-03  0:19                       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2021-03-03 19:00                         ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2021-01-12 18:12   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2021-01-13 14:19     ` Michal Hocko
2021-01-20  5:01 ` James Morris
2021-01-20 16:49   ` Suren Baghdasaryan

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