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From: Bharata B Rao <bharata@linux.ibm.com>
To: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>
Cc: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>, Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	aneesh.kumar@linux.ibm.com, Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v0] mm/slub: Let number of online CPUs determine the slub page order
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2021 09:58:13 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210125042813.GA2869122@in.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAG48ez0gutKNuRj4E22tkv8mQKo-6TExGMxvpHCtUz8sFonb3A@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 02:05:47PM +0100, Jann Horn wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 7:19 PM Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz> wrote:
> > On 1/21/21 11:01 AM, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> > > On Thu, 21 Jan 2021, Bharata B Rao wrote:
> > >
> > >> > The problem is that calculate_order() is called a number of times
> > >> > before secondaries CPUs are booted and it returns 1 instead of 224.
> > >> > This makes the use of num_online_cpus() irrelevant for those cases
> > >> >
> > >> > After adding in my command line "slub_min_objects=36" which equals to
> > >> > 4 * (fls(num_online_cpus()) + 1) with a correct num_online_cpus == 224
> > >> > , the regression diseapears:
> > >> >
> > >> > 9 iterations of hackbench -l 16000 -g 16: 3.201sec (+/- 0.90%)
> >
> > I'm surprised that hackbench is that sensitive to slab performance, anyway. It's
> > supposed to be a scheduler benchmark? What exactly is going on?
> 
> Uuuh, I think powerpc doesn't have cmpxchg_double?
> 
> "vgrep cmpxchg_double arch/" just spits out arm64, s390 and x86? And
> <https://liblfds.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Article:CAS_and_LL/SC_Implementation_Details_by_Processor_family>
> says under "POWERPC": "no DW LL/SC"
> 
> So powerpc is probably hitting the page-bitlock-based implementation
> all the time for stuff like __slub_free()? Do you have detailed
> profiling results from "perf top" or something like that?

I can check that, but the current patch was aimed at reducing
the page order of the slub caches so that they don't end up
consuming more memory on 64K systems.

> 
> (I actually have some WIP patches and a design document for getting
> rid of cmpxchg_double in struct page that I hacked together in the
> last couple days; I'm currently in the process of sending them over to
> some other folks in the company who hopefully have cycles to
> review/polish/benchmark them so that they can be upstreamed, assuming
> that those folks think they're important enough. I don't have the
> cycles for it...)

Sounds interesting, will keep a watch to see its effect on powerpc.

Regards,
Bharata.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-01-25  4:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-18  8:27 [RFC PATCH v0] mm/slub: Let number of online CPUs determine the slub page order Bharata B Rao
2020-11-18 11:25 ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-11-18 19:34   ` Roman Gushchin
2020-11-18 19:53     ` David Rientjes
2021-01-20 17:36 ` Vincent Guittot
2021-01-21  5:30   ` Bharata B Rao
2021-01-21  9:09     ` Vincent Guittot
2021-01-21 10:01     ` Christoph Lameter
2021-01-21 10:48       ` Vincent Guittot
2021-01-21 18:19       ` Vlastimil Babka
2021-01-22  8:03         ` Vincent Guittot
2021-01-22 12:03           ` Vlastimil Babka
2021-01-22 13:16             ` Vincent Guittot
2021-01-23  5:16             ` Bharata B Rao
2021-01-23 12:32               ` Vincent Guittot
2021-01-25 11:20                 ` Vlastimil Babka
2021-01-26 23:03                   ` Will Deacon
2021-01-27  9:10                     ` Christoph Lameter
2021-01-27 11:04                       ` Vlastimil Babka
2021-02-03 11:10                         ` Bharata B Rao
2021-02-04  7:32                           ` Vincent Guittot
2021-02-04  9:07                             ` Christoph Lameter
2021-02-04  9:33                           ` Vlastimil Babka
2021-02-08 13:41                             ` [PATCH] mm, slub: better heuristic for number of cpus when calculating slab order Vlastimil Babka
2021-02-08 14:54                               ` Vincent Guittot
2021-02-10 14:07                               ` Mel Gorman
2021-01-22 13:05         ` [RFC PATCH v0] mm/slub: Let number of online CPUs determine the slub page order Jann Horn
2021-01-22 13:09           ` Jann Horn
2021-01-22 15:27           ` Vlastimil Babka
2021-01-25  4:28           ` Bharata B Rao [this message]
2021-01-26  8:52         ` Michal Hocko
2021-01-26 13:38           ` Vincent Guittot
2021-01-26 13:59             ` Michal Hocko
2021-01-28 13:45               ` Mel Gorman
2021-01-28 13:57                 ` Michal Hocko
2021-01-28 14:42                   ` Mel Gorman

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