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From: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Cc: Mike Rapoport <rppt@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>,
	Jerome Glisse <jglisse@redhat.com>,
	"Kirill A . Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Axel Rasmussen <axelrasmussen@google.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Nadav Amit <nadav.amit@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 00/30] userfaultfd-wp: Support shmem and hugetlbfs
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2021 17:49:38 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210129224938.GC260413@xz-x1> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210115170907.24498-1-peterx@redhat.com>

On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 12:08:37PM -0500, Peter Xu wrote:
> This is a RFC series to support userfaultfd upon shmem and hugetlbfs.
> 
> PS. Note that there's a known issue [0] with tlb against uffd-wp/soft-dirty in
> general and Nadav is working on it.  It may or may not directly affect
> shmem/hugetlbfs since there're no COW on shared mappings normally.  Private
> shmem could hit, but still that's another problem to solve in general, and this
> RFC is majorly to see whether there's any objection on the concept of the idea
> specific to uffd-wp on shmem/hugetlbfs.
> 
> The whole series can also be found online [1].
> 
> The major comment I'd like to get is on the new idea of swap special pte.  That
> comes from suggestions from both Hugh and Andrea and I appreciated a lot for
> those discussions.
> 
> In short, it's a new type of pte that doesn't exist in the past, while used in
> file-backed memories to persist information across ptes being erased (but the
> page cache could still exist, for example, so in the next page fault we can
> reload the page cache with that specific information when necessary).
> 
> I'm copy-pasting some commit message from the patch "mm/swap: Introduce the
> idea of special swap ptes", where uffd-wp becomes the first user of it:
> 
>     We used to have special swap entries, like migration entries, hw-poison
>     entries, device private entries, etc.
> 
>     Those "special swap entries" reside in the range that they need to be at least
>     swap entries first, and their types are decided by swp_type(entry).
> 
>     This patch introduces another idea called "special swap ptes".
> 
>     It's very easy to get confused against "special swap entries", but a speical
>     swap pte should never contain a swap entry at all.  It means, it's illegal to
>     call pte_to_swp_entry() upon a special swap pte.
> 
>     Make the uffd-wp special pte to be the first special swap pte.
> 
>     Before this patch, is_swap_pte()==true means one of the below:
> 
>        (a.1) The pte has a normal swap entry (non_swap_entry()==false).  For
>              example, when an anonymous page got swapped out.
> 
>        (a.2) The pte has a special swap entry (non_swap_entry()==true).  For
>              example, a migration entry, a hw-poison entry, etc.
> 
>     After this patch, is_swap_pte()==true means one of the below, where case (b) is
>     added:
> 
>      (a) The pte contains a swap entry.
> 
>        (a.1) The pte has a normal swap entry (non_swap_entry()==false).  For
>              example, when an anonymous page got swapped out.
> 
>        (a.2) The pte has a special swap entry (non_swap_entry()==true).  For
>              example, a migration entry, a hw-poison entry, etc.
> 
>      (b) The pte does not contain a swap entry at all (so it cannot be passed
>          into pte_to_swp_entry()).  For example, uffd-wp special swap pte.
> 
> Hugetlbfs needs similar thing because it's also file-backed.  I directly reused
> the same special pte there, though the shmem/hugetlb change on supporting this
> new pte is different since they don't share code path a lot.

Huge & Mike,

Would any of you have comment/concerns on the high-level design of this series?

It would be great to know it, especially major objection, before move on to an
non-rfc version.

Thanks,

-- 
Peter Xu



  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-01-29 22:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-15 17:08 [PATCH RFC 00/30] userfaultfd-wp: Support shmem and hugetlbfs Peter Xu
2021-01-15 17:08 ` [PATCH RFC 01/30] mm/thp: Simplify copying of huge zero page pmd when fork Peter Xu
2021-01-15 17:08 ` [PATCH RFC 02/30] mm/userfaultfd: Fix uffd-wp special cases for fork() Peter Xu
2021-01-15 17:08 ` [PATCH RFC 03/30] mm/userfaultfd: Fix a few thp pmd missing uffd-wp bit Peter Xu
2021-01-15 17:08 ` [PATCH RFC 04/30] shmem/userfaultfd: Take care of UFFDIO_COPY_MODE_WP Peter Xu
2021-01-15 17:08 ` [PATCH RFC 05/30] mm: Clear vmf->pte after pte_unmap_same() returns Peter Xu
2021-01-15 17:08 ` [PATCH RFC 06/30] mm/userfaultfd: Introduce special pte for unmapped file-backed mem Peter Xu
2021-01-15 17:08 ` [PATCH RFC 07/30] mm/swap: Introduce the idea of special swap ptes Peter Xu
2021-01-18 19:40   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-01-19 14:24     ` Peter Xu
2021-01-15 17:08 ` [PATCH RFC 08/30] shmem/userfaultfd: Handle uffd-wp special pte in page fault handler Peter Xu
2021-01-15 17:08 ` [PATCH RFC 09/30] mm: Drop first_index/last_index in zap_details Peter Xu
2021-01-15 17:08 ` [PATCH RFC 10/30] mm: Introduce zap_details.zap_flags Peter Xu
2021-01-15 17:08 ` [PATCH RFC 11/30] mm: Introduce ZAP_FLAG_SKIP_SWAP Peter Xu
2021-01-15 17:08 ` [PATCH RFC 12/30] mm: Pass zap_flags into unmap_mapping_pages() Peter Xu
2021-01-15 17:08 ` [PATCH RFC 13/30] shmem/userfaultfd: Persist uffd-wp bit across zapping for file-backed Peter Xu
2021-01-15 17:08 ` [PATCH RFC 14/30] shmem/userfaultfd: Allow wr-protect none pte for file-backed mem Peter Xu
2021-01-15 17:08 ` [PATCH RFC 15/30] shmem/userfaultfd: Allows file-back mem to be uffd wr-protected on thps Peter Xu
2021-01-15 17:08 ` [PATCH RFC 16/30] shmem/userfaultfd: Handle the left-overed special swap ptes Peter Xu
2021-01-15 17:08 ` [PATCH RFC 17/30] shmem/userfaultfd: Pass over uffd-wp special swap pte when fork() Peter Xu
2021-01-15 17:08 ` [PATCH RFC 18/30] hugetlb/userfaultfd: Hook page faults for uffd write protection Peter Xu
2021-01-15 17:08 ` [PATCH RFC 19/30] hugetlb/userfaultfd: Take care of UFFDIO_COPY_MODE_WP Peter Xu
2021-01-15 17:08 ` [PATCH RFC 20/30] hugetlb/userfaultfd: Handle UFFDIO_WRITEPROTECT Peter Xu
2021-01-15 17:08 ` [PATCH RFC 21/30] hugetlb: Pass vma into huge_pte_alloc() Peter Xu
2021-01-28 22:59   ` Axel Rasmussen
2021-01-29 22:31     ` Peter Xu
2021-01-30  8:08       ` Axel Rasmussen
2021-01-15 17:08 ` [PATCH RFC 22/30] hugetlb/userfaultfd: Forbid huge pmd sharing when uffd enabled Peter Xu
2021-01-15 17:09 ` [PATCH RFC 23/30] mm/hugetlb: Introduce huge version of special swap pte helpers Peter Xu
2021-01-15 17:09 ` [PATCH RFC 24/30] mm/hugetlb: Move flush_hugetlb_tlb_range() into hugetlb.h Peter Xu
2021-01-15 17:09 ` [PATCH RFC 25/30] hugetlb/userfaultfd: Unshare all pmds for hugetlbfs when register wp Peter Xu
2021-01-15 17:09 ` [PATCH RFC 26/30] hugetlb/userfaultfd: Handle uffd-wp special pte in hugetlb pf handler Peter Xu
2021-01-15 17:09 ` [PATCH RFC 27/30] hugetlb/userfaultfd: Allow wr-protect none ptes Peter Xu
2021-01-15 17:09 ` [PATCH RFC 28/30] hugetlb/userfaultfd: Only drop uffd-wp special pte if required Peter Xu
2021-01-15 17:09 ` [PATCH RFC 29/30] userfaultfd: Enable write protection for shmem & hugetlbfs Peter Xu
2021-01-15 17:12 ` [PATCH RFC 30/30] userfaultfd/selftests: Enable uffd-wp for shmem/hugetlbfs Peter Xu
2021-01-29 22:49 ` Peter Xu [this message]
2021-02-05 21:53   ` [PATCH RFC 00/30] userfaultfd-wp: Support shmem and hugetlbfs Mike Kravetz
2021-02-06  2:36     ` Peter Xu
2021-02-09 19:29       ` Mike Kravetz
2021-02-09 22:00         ` Peter Xu
2021-02-05 22:21   ` Hugh Dickins
2021-02-06  2:47     ` Peter Xu

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