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From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Cc: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Trond Myklebust <trondmy@hammerspace.com>,
	Anna Schumaker <anna.schumaker@netapp.com>,
	Steve French <sfrench@samba.org>,
	Dominique Martinet <asmadeus@codewreck.org>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-cachefs@redhat.com,
	linux-afs@lists.infradead.org, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-cifs@vger.kernel.org, ceph-devel@vger.kernel.org,
	v9fs-developer@lists.sourceforge.net,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Jeff Layton <jlayton@redhat.com>,
	David Wysochanski <dwysocha@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 03/33] mm: Implement readahead_control pageset expansion
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2021 13:22:51 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210216132251.GI2858050@casper.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210216103215.GB27714@lst.de>

On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 11:32:15AM +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 03:44:52PM +0000, David Howells wrote:
> > Provide a function, readahead_expand(), that expands the set of pages
> > specified by a readahead_control object to encompass a revised area with a
> > proposed size and length.
> > 
> > The proposed area must include all of the old area and may be expanded yet
> > more by this function so that the edges align on (transparent huge) page
> > boundaries as allocated.
> > 
> > The expansion will be cut short if a page already exists in either of the
> > areas being expanded into.  Note that any expansion made in such a case is
> > not rolled back.
> > 
> > This will be used by fscache so that reads can be expanded to cache granule
> > boundaries, thereby allowing whole granules to be stored in the cache, but
> > there are other potential users also.
> 
> So looking at linux-next this seems to have a user, but that user is
> dead wood given that nothing implements ->expand_readahead.
> 
> Looking at the code structure I think netfs_readahead and
> netfs_rreq_expand is a complete mess and needs to be turned upside
> down, that is instead of calling back from netfs_readahead to the
> calling file system, split it into a few helpers called by the
> caller.

That's funny, we modelled it after iomap.

> But even after this can't we just expose the cache granule boundary
> to the VM so that the read-ahead request gets setup correctly from
> the very beginning?

The intent is that this be usable by filesystems which want to (for
example) compress variable sized blocks.  So they won't know which pages
they want to readahead until they're in their iomap actor routine,
see that the extent they're in is compressed, and find out how large
the extent is.


  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-16 13:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-15 15:44 [PATCH 00/33] Network fs helper library & fscache kiocb API [ver #3] David Howells
2021-02-15 15:44 ` [PATCH 01/33] iov_iter: Add ITER_XARRAY David Howells
2021-02-15 15:44 ` [PATCH 02/33] mm: Add an unlock function for PG_private_2/PG_fscache David Howells
2021-02-16 10:26   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-02-15 15:44 ` [PATCH 03/33] mm: Implement readahead_control pageset expansion David Howells
2021-02-16 10:32   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-02-16 13:22     ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2021-02-17 14:36       ` Mike Marshall
2021-02-17 15:42       ` David Howells
2021-02-17 16:59         ` Mike Marshall
2021-02-17 22:20         ` David Howells
2021-02-16 11:48   ` David Howells
2021-02-17 16:13   ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-02-17 22:34   ` David Howells
2021-02-17 22:49     ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-02-18 17:47   ` David Howells
2021-02-15 15:45 ` [PATCH 04/33] vfs: Export rw_verify_area() for use by cachefiles David Howells
2021-02-16 10:26   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-02-16 11:55   ` David Howells
2021-02-15 15:45 ` [PATCH 05/33] netfs: Make a netfs helper module David Howells
2021-02-15 15:45 ` [PATCH 06/33] netfs, mm: Move PG_fscache helper funcs to linux/netfs.h David Howells
2021-02-15 15:45 ` [PATCH 07/33] netfs, mm: Add unlock_page_fscache() and wait_on_page_fscache() David Howells
2021-02-15 15:45 ` [PATCH 08/33] netfs: Provide readahead and readpage netfs helpers David Howells
2021-02-15 15:45 ` [PATCH 09/33] netfs: Add tracepoints David Howells
2021-02-15 15:46 ` [PATCH 10/33] netfs: Gather stats David Howells
2021-02-15 15:46 ` [PATCH 11/33] netfs: Add write_begin helper David Howells
2021-02-15 15:46 ` [PATCH 12/33] netfs: Define an interface to talk to a cache David Howells
2021-02-15 15:46 ` [PATCH 13/33] netfs: Hold a ref on a page when PG_private_2 is set David Howells
2021-02-15 18:05 ` [PATCH 00/33] Network fs helper library & fscache kiocb API [ver #3] Jeff Layton
2021-02-16  0:40   ` Steve French
2021-02-16  2:10     ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-02-16  5:18       ` Steve French
2021-02-16  5:22       ` Steve French
2021-02-23 20:27         ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-02-24  4:57           ` Steve French
2021-02-24 13:32       ` David Howells
2021-02-24 15:51         ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-02-16 11:01     ` Jeff Layton
2021-02-15 22:46 ` [PATCH 34/33] netfs: Use in_interrupt() not in_softirq() David Howells
2021-02-16  8:42   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-02-16  9:06     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2021-02-16  9:29   ` David Howells
2021-02-16  9:30     ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-02-18 14:02     ` [PATCH 34/33] netfs: Pass flag rather than use in_softirq() David Howells
2021-02-18 15:06       ` Marc Dionne
2021-02-18 15:16       ` Marc Dionne
2021-02-19  9:01       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior

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