From: Jason Gunthorpe <email@example.com> To: Dan Williams <firstname.lastname@example.org> Cc: Joao Martins <email@example.com>, Linux MM <firstname.lastname@example.org>, Ira Weiny <email@example.com>, linux-nvdimm <firstname.lastname@example.org>, Matthew Wilcox <email@example.com>, Jane Chu <firstname.lastname@example.org>, Muchun Song <email@example.com>, Mike Kravetz <firstname.lastname@example.org>, Andrew Morton <email@example.com>, Ralph Campbell <firstname.lastname@example.org> Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 0/9] mm, sparse-vmemmap: Introduce compound pagemaps Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2021 21:00:17 -0400 [thread overview] Message-ID: <20210224010017.GQ2643399@ziepe.ca> (raw) In-Reply-To: <CAPcyv4hAHaGZ52TtZxTyYtQQVMKW+MaqYDsDKJe94o-cNZNv4g@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 04:14:01PM -0800, Dan Williams wrote: > [ add Ralph ] > > On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 3:07 PM Jason Gunthorpe <email@example.com> wrote: > > > > On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 02:48:20PM -0800, Dan Williams wrote: > > > On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 10:54 AM Jason Gunthorpe <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 08:44:52AM -0800, Dan Williams wrote: > > > > > > > > > > The downside would be one extra lookup in dev_pagemap tree > > > > > > for other pgmap->types (P2P, FSDAX, PRIVATE). But just one > > > > > > per gup-fast() call. > > > > > > > > > > I'd guess a dev_pagemap lookup is faster than a get_user_pages slow > > > > > path. It should be measurable that this change is at least as fast or > > > > > faster than falling back to the slow path, but it would be good to > > > > > measure. > > > > > > > > What is the dev_pagemap thing doing in gup fast anyhow? > > > > > > > > I've been wondering for a while.. > > > > > > It's there to synchronize against dax-device removal. The device will > > > suspend removal awaiting all page references to be dropped, but > > > gup-fast could be racing device removal. So gup-fast checks for > > > pte_devmap() to grab a live reference to the device before assuming it > > > can pin a page. > > > > From the perspective of CPU A it can't tell if CPU B is doing a HW > > page table walk or a GUP fast when it invalidates a page table. The > > design of gup-fast is supposed to be the same as the design of a HW > > page table walk, and the tlb invalidate CPU A does when removing a > > page from a page table is supposed to serialize against both a HW page > > table walk and gup-fast. > > > > Given that the HW page table walker does not do dev_pagemap stuff, why > > does gup-fast? > > gup-fast historically assumed that the 'struct page' and memory > backing the page-table walk could not physically be removed from the > system during its walk because those pages were allocated from the > page allocator before being mapped into userspace. No, I'd say gup-fast assumes that any non-special PTE it finds in a page table must have a struct page. If something wants to remove that struct page it must first remove all the PTEs pointing at it from the entire system and flush the TLBs, which directly prevents a future gup-fast from running and trying to access the struct page. No extra locking needed > implied elevated reference on any page that gup-fast would be asked to > walk, or pte_special() is there to "say wait, nevermind this isn't a > page allocator page fallback to gup-slow()". pte_special says there is no struct page, and some of those cases can be fixed up in gup-slow. > > Can you sketch the exact race this is protecting against? > > Thread1 mmaps /mnt/daxfile1 from a "mount -o dax" filesystem and > issues direct I/O with that mapping as the target buffer, Thread2 does > "echo "namespace0.0" > /sys/bus/nd/drivers/nd_pmem/unbind". Without > the dev_pagemap check reference gup-fast could execute > get_page(pte_page(pte)) on a page that doesn't even exist anymore > because the driver unbind has already performed remove_pages(). Surely the unbind either waits for all the VMAs to be destroyed or zaps them before allowing things to progress to remove_pages()? Having a situation where the CPU page tables still point at physical pages that have been removed sounds so crazy/insecure, that can't be what is happening, can it?? Jason
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-02-24 1:01 UTC|newest] Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2020-12-08 17:28 Joao Martins 2020-12-08 17:28 ` [PATCH RFC 1/9] memremap: add ZONE_DEVICE support for compound pages Joao Martins 2020-12-09 5:59 ` John Hubbard 2020-12-09 6:33 ` Matthew Wilcox 2020-12-09 13:12 ` Joao Martins 2021-02-20 1:43 ` Dan Williams 2021-02-22 11:24 ` Joao Martins 2021-02-22 20:37 ` Dan Williams 2021-02-23 15:46 ` Joao Martins 2021-02-23 16:50 ` Dan Williams 2021-02-23 17:18 ` Joao Martins 2021-02-23 18:18 ` Dan Williams 2021-03-10 18:12 ` Joao Martins 2021-03-12 5:54 ` Dan Williams 2021-02-20 1:24 ` Dan Williams 2021-02-22 11:09 ` Joao Martins 2020-12-08 17:28 ` [PATCH RFC 2/9] sparse-vmemmap: Consolidate arguments in vmemmap section populate Joao Martins 2020-12-09 6:16 ` John Hubbard 2020-12-09 13:51 ` Joao Martins 2021-02-20 1:49 ` Dan Williams 2021-02-22 11:26 ` Joao Martins 2020-12-08 17:28 ` [PATCH RFC 3/9] sparse-vmemmap: Reuse vmemmap areas for a given mhp_params::align Joao Martins 2020-12-08 17:38 ` Joao Martins 2020-12-08 17:28 ` [PATCH RFC 3/9] sparse-vmemmap: Reuse vmemmap areas for a given page size Joao Martins 2021-02-20 3:34 ` Dan Williams 2021-02-22 11:42 ` Joao Martins 2021-02-22 22:40 ` Dan Williams 2021-02-23 15:46 ` Joao Martins 2020-12-08 17:28 ` [PATCH RFC 4/9] mm/page_alloc: Reuse tail struct pages for compound pagemaps Joao Martins 2021-02-20 6:17 ` Dan Williams 2021-02-22 12:01 ` Joao Martins 2020-12-08 17:28 ` [PATCH RFC 5/9] device-dax: Compound pagemap support Joao Martins 2020-12-08 17:28 ` [PATCH RFC 6/9] mm/gup: Grab head page refcount once for group of subpages Joao Martins 2020-12-08 19:49 ` Jason Gunthorpe 2020-12-09 11:05 ` Joao Martins 2020-12-09 15:15 ` Jason Gunthorpe 2020-12-09 16:02 ` Joao Martins 2020-12-09 16:24 ` Jason Gunthorpe 2020-12-09 17:27 ` Joao Martins 2020-12-09 18:14 ` Matthew Wilcox 2020-12-09 19:08 ` Jason Gunthorpe 2020-12-10 15:43 ` Joao Martins 2020-12-09 4:40 ` John Hubbard 2020-12-09 13:44 ` Joao Martins 2020-12-08 17:28 ` [PATCH RFC 7/9] mm/gup: Decrement head page " Joao Martins 2020-12-08 19:34 ` Jason Gunthorpe 2020-12-09 5:06 ` John Hubbard 2020-12-09 13:43 ` Jason Gunthorpe 2020-12-09 12:17 ` Joao Martins 2020-12-17 19:05 ` Joao Martins 2020-12-17 20:05 ` Jason Gunthorpe 2020-12-17 22:34 ` Joao Martins 2020-12-18 14:25 ` Jason Gunthorpe 2020-12-19 2:06 ` John Hubbard 2020-12-19 13:10 ` Joao Martins 2020-12-08 17:29 ` [PATCH RFC 8/9] RDMA/umem: batch page unpin in __ib_mem_release() Joao Martins 2020-12-08 19:29 ` Jason Gunthorpe 2020-12-09 10:59 ` Joao Martins 2020-12-19 13:15 ` Joao Martins 2020-12-09 5:18 ` John Hubbard 2020-12-08 17:29 ` [PATCH RFC 9/9] mm: Add follow_devmap_page() for devdax vmas Joao Martins 2020-12-08 19:57 ` Jason Gunthorpe 2020-12-09 8:05 ` Christoph Hellwig 2020-12-09 11:19 ` Joao Martins 2020-12-09 5:23 ` John Hubbard 2020-12-09 9:38 ` [PATCH RFC 0/9] mm, sparse-vmemmap: Introduce compound pagemaps David Hildenbrand 2020-12-09 9:52 ` [External] " Muchun Song 2021-02-20 1:18 ` Dan Williams 2021-02-22 11:06 ` Joao Martins 2021-02-22 14:32 ` Joao Martins 2021-02-23 16:28 ` Joao Martins 2021-02-23 16:44 ` Dan Williams 2021-02-23 17:15 ` Joao Martins 2021-02-23 18:15 ` Dan Williams 2021-02-23 18:54 ` Jason Gunthorpe 2021-02-23 22:48 ` Dan Williams 2021-02-23 23:07 ` Jason Gunthorpe 2021-02-24 0:14 ` Dan Williams 2021-02-24 1:00 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message] 2021-02-24 1:32 ` Dan Williams
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