From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.3 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS, USER_AGENT_SANE_1 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D9DDC433C1 for ; Thu, 25 Mar 2021 14:26:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kanga.kvack.org (kanga.kvack.org [205.233.56.17]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACA7D619FE for ; Thu, 25 Mar 2021 14:26:45 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org ACA7D619FE Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=techsingularity.net Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=owner-linux-mm@kvack.org Received: by kanga.kvack.org (Postfix) id 284FA6B007B; Thu, 25 Mar 2021 10:26:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: by kanga.kvack.org (Postfix, from userid 40) id 234D26B007D; Thu, 25 Mar 2021 10:26:45 -0400 (EDT) X-Delivered-To: int-list-linux-mm@kvack.org Received: by kanga.kvack.org (Postfix, from userid 63042) id 0D65E6B007E; Thu, 25 Mar 2021 10:26:45 -0400 (EDT) X-Delivered-To: linux-mm@kvack.org Received: from forelay.hostedemail.com (smtprelay0084.hostedemail.com [216.40.44.84]) by kanga.kvack.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E30546B007B for ; Thu, 25 Mar 2021 10:26:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpin23.hostedemail.com (10.5.19.251.rfc1918.com [10.5.19.251]) by forelay01.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EE5518503B5F for ; Thu, 25 Mar 2021 14:26:44 +0000 (UTC) X-FDA: 77958622728.23.2927BF4 Received: from outbound-smtp35.blacknight.com (outbound-smtp35.blacknight.com [46.22.139.218]) by imf23.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04875A00026F for ; Thu, 25 Mar 2021 14:26:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.blacknight.com (pemlinmail04.blacknight.ie [81.17.254.17]) by outbound-smtp35.blacknight.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EEA1D1527 for ; Thu, 25 Mar 2021 14:26:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: (qmail 8307 invoked from network); 25 Mar 2021 14:26:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO techsingularity.net) (mgorman@techsingularity.net@[84.203.22.4]) by 81.17.254.9 with ESMTPSA (AES256-SHA encrypted, authenticated); 25 Mar 2021 14:26:25 -0000 Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2021 14:26:24 +0000 From: Mel Gorman To: Uladzislau Rezki Cc: Matthew Wilcox , Andrew Morton , Chuck Lever , Jesper Dangaard Brouer , Christoph Hellwig , Alexander Duyck , Vlastimil Babka , Ilias Apalodimas , LKML , Linux-Net , Linux-MM , Linux-NFS Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/9 v6] Introduce a bulk order-0 page allocator with two in-tree users Message-ID: <20210325142624.GT3697@techsingularity.net> References: <20210325114228.27719-1-mgorman@techsingularity.net> <20210325125001.GW1719932@casper.infradead.org> <20210325132556.GS3697@techsingularity.net> <20210325140657.GA1908@pc638.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20210325140657.GA1908@pc638.lan> User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) X-Rspamd-Server: rspam04 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 04875A00026F X-Stat-Signature: 68ux4dqzp93nm6ydbeir1nns14xtcuob Received-SPF: none (techsingularity.net>: No applicable sender policy available) receiver=imf23; identity=mailfrom; envelope-from=""; helo=outbound-smtp35.blacknight.com; client-ip=46.22.139.218 X-HE-DKIM-Result: none/none X-HE-Tag: 1616682390-755214 X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.2.4 Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org Precedence: bulk X-Loop: owner-majordomo@kvack.org List-ID: On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 03:06:57PM +0100, Uladzislau Rezki wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 12:50:01PM +0000, Matthew Wilcox wrote: > > > On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 11:42:19AM +0000, Mel Gorman wrote: > > > > This series introduces a bulk order-0 page allocator with sunrpc and > > > > the network page pool being the first users. The implementation is not > > > > efficient as semantics needed to be ironed out first. If no other semantic > > > > changes are needed, it can be made more efficient. Despite that, this > > > > is a performance-related for users that require multiple pages for an > > > > operation without multiple round-trips to the page allocator. Quoting > > > > the last patch for the high-speed networking use-case > > > > > > > > Kernel XDP stats CPU pps Delta > > > > Baseline XDP-RX CPU total 3,771,046 n/a > > > > List XDP-RX CPU total 3,940,242 +4.49% > > > > Array XDP-RX CPU total 4,249,224 +12.68% > > > > > > > > >From the SUNRPC traces of svc_alloc_arg() > > > > > > > > Single page: 25.007 us per call over 532,571 calls > > > > Bulk list: 6.258 us per call over 517,034 calls > > > > Bulk array: 4.590 us per call over 517,442 calls > > > > > > > > Both potential users in this series are corner cases (NFS and high-speed > > > > networks) so it is unlikely that most users will see any benefit in the > > > > short term. Other potential other users are batch allocations for page > > > > cache readahead, fault around and SLUB allocations when high-order pages > > > > are unavailable. It's unknown how much benefit would be seen by converting > > > > multiple page allocation calls to a single batch or what difference it may > > > > make to headline performance. > > > > > > We have a third user, vmalloc(), with a 16% perf improvement. I know the > > > email says 21% but that includes the 5% improvement from switching to > > > kvmalloc() to allocate area->pages. > > > > > > https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20210323133948.GA10046@pc638.lan/ > > > > > > > That's fairly promising. Assuming the bulk allocator gets merged, it would > > make sense to add vmalloc on top. That's for bringing it to my attention > > because it's far more relevant than my imaginary potential use cases. > > > For the vmalloc we should be able to allocating on a specific NUMA node, > at least the current interface takes it into account. As far as i see > the current interface allocate on a current node: > > static inline unsigned long > alloc_pages_bulk_array(gfp_t gfp, unsigned long nr_pages, struct page **page_array) > { > return __alloc_pages_bulk(gfp, numa_mem_id(), NULL, nr_pages, NULL, page_array); > } > > Or am i missing something? > No, you're not missing anything. Options would be to add a helper similar alloc_pages_node or to directly call __alloc_pages_bulk specifying a node and using GFP_THISNODE. prepare_alloc_pages() should pick the correct zonelist containing only the required node. > -- > Vlad Rezki -- Mel Gorman SUSE Labs