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From: Feng Tang <feng.tang@intel.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Ben Widawsky <ben.widawsky@intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>,
	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	ying.huang@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 4/4] mm/mempolicy: kill MPOL_F_LOCAL bit
Date: Thu, 27 May 2021 21:34:36 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210527133436.GD7743@shbuild999.sh.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YK+P8GDH2kn4FDsA@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 02:26:24PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Thu 27-05-21 20:10:41, Feng Tang wrote:
> > On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 10:20:08AM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > On Wed 26-05-21 13:01:42, Feng Tang wrote:
> > > > Now the only remaining case of a real 'local' policy faked by
> > > > 'prefer' policy plus MPOL_F_LOCAL bit is:
> > > > 
> > > > A valid 'prefer' policy with a valid 'preferred' node is 'rebind'
> > > > to a nodemask which doesn't contains the 'preferred' node, then it
> > > > will handle allocation with 'local' policy.
> > > > 
> > > > Add a new 'MPOL_F_LOCAL_TEMP' bit for this case, and kill the
> > > > MPOL_F_LOCAL bit, which could simplify the code much.
> > > 
> > > As I've pointed out in the reply to the previous patch. It would have
> > > been much better if most of the MPOL_F_LOCAL usage was gone by this
> > > patch.
> > > 
> > > I also dislike a new MPOL_F_LOCAL_TEMP. This smells like sneaking the
> > > hack back in after you have painstakingly removed it. So this looks like
> > > a step backwards to me. I also do not understand why do we need the
> > > rebind callback for local policy at all. There is no node mask for local
> > > so what is going on here?
> > 
> > This is the special case 4 for 'perfer' policy with MPOL_F_STATIC_NODES
> > flag set, say it prefer node 1, when it is later 'refind' to a new
> > nodemask node 2-3, according to current code it will be add the
> > MPOL_F_LOCAL bit and performs 'local' policy acctually. And in future
> > it is 'rebind' again with a nodemask 1-2, it will be restored back
> > to 'prefer' policy with preferred node 1.
> 
> Honestly I still do not follow the actual problem. 

I was confused too, and don't know the original thought behind it. This
case 4 was just imagined by reading the code.

> A preferred node is a
> _hint_. If you rebind the task to a different cpuset then why should we
> actually care? The allocator will fallback to the closest node according
> to the distance metric. Maybe the original code was trying to handle
> that in some way but I really do fail to understand that code and I
> strongly suspect it is more likely to overengineered rather than backed
> by a real usecase. I might be wrong here but then this is an excellent
> opportunity to clarify all those subtleties.

From the code, the original special handling may be needed in 3 cases:
    get_policy_nodemask()
    policy_node()
    mempolicy_slab_node()
to not return the preset prefer_nid.

Thanks,
Feng

> -- 
> Michal Hocko
> SUSE Labs


  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-27 13:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-26  5:01 [PATCH v1 0/4] mm/mempolicy: some fix and semantics cleanup Feng Tang
2021-05-26  5:01 ` [PATCH v1 1/4] mm/mempolicy: skip nodemask intersect check for 'interleave' when oom Feng Tang
2021-05-27  7:30   ` Michal Hocko
2021-05-27 13:05     ` Feng Tang
2021-05-27 13:15       ` Michal Hocko
2021-05-27 13:22         ` Feng Tang
2021-05-26  5:01 ` [PATCH v1 2/4] mm/mempolicy: unify the preprocessing for mbind and set_mempolicy Feng Tang
2021-05-27  7:39   ` Michal Hocko
2021-05-27 12:31     ` Feng Tang
2021-05-26  5:01 ` [PATCH v1 3/4] mm/mempolicy: don't handle MPOL_LOCAL like a fake MPOL_PREFERRED policy Feng Tang
2021-05-27  8:12   ` Michal Hocko
2021-05-27 12:06     ` Feng Tang
2021-05-27 12:16       ` Michal Hocko
2021-05-26  5:01 ` [PATCH v1 4/4] mm/mempolicy: kill MPOL_F_LOCAL bit Feng Tang
2021-05-27  8:20   ` Michal Hocko
2021-05-27 12:10     ` Feng Tang
2021-05-27 12:26       ` Michal Hocko
2021-05-27 13:34         ` Feng Tang [this message]
2021-05-27 15:34           ` Michal Hocko
2021-05-28  4:39             ` Feng Tang
2021-05-31  7:00               ` Michal Hocko
2021-05-31  7:32                 ` Feng Tang
2021-05-31  8:22                   ` Michal Hocko
2021-05-31  8:29                     ` Feng Tang

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