From: Ming Lin <mlin@kernel.org>
To: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>, Simon Ser <contact@emersion.fr>,
Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
virtio-fs-list <virtio-fs@redhat.com>,
"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] mm: adds NOSIGBUS extension to mmap()
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2021 09:37:35 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210630163735.GA289024@ubuntu-server> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210628142723.GB1803896@redhat.com>
O Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 10:27:23AM -0400, Vivek Goyal wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 04, 2021 at 12:43:22AM -0700, Ming Lin wrote:
> > Adds new flag MAP_NOSIGBUS of mmap() to specify the behavior of
> > "don't SIGBUS on fault". Right now, this flag is only allowed
> > for private mapping.
> >
> > For MAP_NOSIGBUS mapping, map in the zero page on read fault
> > or fill a freshly allocated page with zeroes on write fault.
>
> I am wondering if this could be of limited use for me if MAP_NOSIGBUS
> were to be supported for shared mappings as well.
V1 did support shared mapping.
https://lkml.org/lkml/2021/6/1/1078
And V0 even supported unmapping the zero page for later write.
https://github.com/minggr/linux/commit/77f3722b94ff33cafe0a72c1bf1b8fa374adb29f
We may support shared mapping if there is a real use case.
As Hugh mentioned:
> And by restricting to MAP_PRIVATE, you would allow for adding a
> proper MAP_SHARED implementation later, if it's thought useful
> (that being the implementation which can subsequently unmap a
> zero page to let new page cache be mapped).
See https://lkml.org/lkml/2021/6/1/1258
Ming
>
> When virtiofs is run with dax enabled, then it is possible that if
> a file is shared between two guests, then one guest truncates the
> file and second guest tries to do load/store operation. Given current
> kvm architecture, there is no mechanism to propagate SIGBUS to guest
> process, instead KVM retries page fault infinitely and guest cpu/process
> hangs.
>
> Ideally we want this error to propagate all the way back into the
> guest and to the guest process but that solution is not in place yet.
>
> https://lore.kernel.org/kvm/20200406190951.GA19259@redhat.com/
>
> In the absense of a proper solution, one could think of mapping
> shared file on host with MAP_NOSIGBUS, and hopefully that means
> kvm will be able to resolve fault to a zero filled page and guest
> will not hang. But this means that data sharing between two processes
> is now broken. Writes by process A will not be visible to process B
> in another once this situation happens, IIUC.
>
> So if we were to MAP_NOSIGBUS, guest will not hang but failures resulting
> from ftruncate will be silent and will be noticed sometime later. I guess
> not exactly a very pleasant scenario...
>
> Thanks
> Vivek
prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-06-30 16:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-06-04 7:43 [PATCH v2 0/2] mm: support NOSIGBUS on fault of mmap Ming Lin
2021-06-04 7:43 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] mm: make "vm_flags" be an u64 Ming Lin
2021-06-04 7:43 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] mm: adds NOSIGBUS extension to mmap() Ming Lin
2021-06-04 15:24 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-06-04 16:22 ` Ming Lin
2021-06-28 14:27 ` Vivek Goyal
2021-06-30 16:37 ` Ming Lin [this message]
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