From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
To: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
linux-api@vger.kernel.org, oleksandr@redhat.com,
Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
Tim Murray <timmurray@google.com>,
Daniel Colascione <dancol@google.com>,
Sandeep Patil <sspatil@google.com>,
Sonny Rao <sonnyrao@google.com>,
Brian Geffon <bgeffon@google.com>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>,
John Dias <joaodias@google.com>,
Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
alexander.h.duyck@linux.intel.com, sj38.park@gmail.com,
SeongJae Park <sjpark@amazon.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 7/7] mm/madvise: allow KSM hints for remote API
Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2020 14:13:49 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2a66abd8-4103-f11b-06d1-07762667eee6@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200302193630.68771-8-minchan@kernel.org>
On 3/2/20 8:36 PM, Minchan Kim wrote:
> From: Oleksandr Natalenko <oleksandr@redhat.com>
>
> It all began with the fact that KSM works only on memory that is marked
> by madvise(). And the only way to get around that is to either:
>
> * use LD_PRELOAD; or
> * patch the kernel with something like UKSM or PKSM.
>
> (i skip ptrace can of worms here intentionally)
>
> To overcome this restriction, lets employ a new remote madvise API. This
> can be used by some small userspace helper daemon that will do auto-KSM
> job for us.
>
> I think of two major consumers of remote KSM hints:
>
> * hosts, that run containers, especially similar ones and especially in
> a trusted environment, sharing the same runtime like Node.js;
>
> * heavy applications, that can be run in multiple instances, not
> limited to opensource ones like Firefox, but also those that cannot be
> modified since they are binary-only and, maybe, statically linked.
>
> Speaking of statistics, more numbers can be found in the very first
> submission, that is related to this one [1]. For my current setup with
> two Firefox instances I get 100 to 200 MiB saved for the second instance
> depending on the amount of tabs.
>
> 1 FF instance with 15 tabs:
>
> $ echo "$(cat /sys/kernel/mm/ksm/pages_sharing) * 4 / 1024" | bc
> 410
>
> 2 FF instances, second one has 12 tabs (all the tabs are different):
>
> $ echo "$(cat /sys/kernel/mm/ksm/pages_sharing) * 4 / 1024" | bc
> 592
>
> At the very moment I do not have specific numbers for containerised
> workload, but those should be comparable in case the containers share
> similar/same runtime.
>
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/patchwork/patch/1012142/
>
> Reviewed-by: SeongJae Park <sjpark@amazon.de>
> Signed-off-by: Oleksandr Natalenko <oleksandr@redhat.com>
> Signed-off-by: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
This will lead to one process calling unmerge_ksm_pages() of another. There's a
(signal_pending(current)) test there, should it check also the other task,
analogically to task 3?
Then break_ksm() is fine as it is, as ksmd also calls it, right?
> ---
> mm/madvise.c | 4 ++++
> 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+)
>
> diff --git a/mm/madvise.c b/mm/madvise.c
> index e77c6c1fad34..f4fa962ee74d 100644
> --- a/mm/madvise.c
> +++ b/mm/madvise.c
> @@ -1005,6 +1005,10 @@ process_madvise_behavior_valid(int behavior)
> switch (behavior) {
> case MADV_COLD:
> case MADV_PAGEOUT:
> +#ifdef CONFIG_KSM
> + case MADV_MERGEABLE:
> + case MADV_UNMERGEABLE:
> +#endif
> return true;
> default:
> return false;
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-03-06 13:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-03-02 19:36 [PATCH v7 0/7] introduce memory hinting API for external process Minchan Kim
2020-03-02 19:36 ` [PATCH v7 1/7] mm: pass task and mm to do_madvise Minchan Kim
2020-03-05 15:48 ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-05-08 18:21 ` Minchan Kim
2020-03-02 19:36 ` [PATCH v7 2/7] mm: introduce external memory hinting API Minchan Kim
2020-03-03 10:33 ` kbuild test robot
2020-03-03 14:57 ` Minchan Kim
2020-03-05 18:15 ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-03-10 22:20 ` Minchan Kim
2020-03-11 0:36 ` Minchan Kim
2020-03-12 12:40 ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-03-12 20:23 ` Minchan Kim
2020-05-08 18:33 ` Minchan Kim
2020-03-02 19:36 ` [PATCH v7 3/7] mm: check fatal signal pending of target process Minchan Kim
2020-03-06 10:22 ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-03-10 22:24 ` Minchan Kim
2020-03-02 19:36 ` [PATCH v7 4/7] pid: move pidfd_get_pid function to pid.c Minchan Kim
2020-03-06 10:57 ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-03-06 11:14 ` Christian Brauner
2020-03-02 19:36 ` [PATCH v7 5/7] mm: support both pid and pidfd for process_madvise Minchan Kim
2020-03-06 11:14 ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-03-11 0:42 ` Minchan Kim
2020-05-08 18:36 ` Minchan Kim
2020-05-08 23:04 ` Andrew Morton
2020-05-09 12:48 ` Christian Brauner
2020-05-09 23:14 ` Minchan Kim
2020-05-12 19:55 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2020-03-02 19:36 ` [PATCH v7 6/7] mm/madvise: employ mmget_still_valid for write lock Minchan Kim
2020-03-06 12:52 ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-03-06 13:03 ` Oleksandr Natalenko
2020-03-06 16:03 ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-03-09 12:30 ` Oleksandr Natalenko
2020-03-10 22:28 ` Minchan Kim
2020-03-02 19:36 ` [PATCH v7 7/7] mm/madvise: allow KSM hints for remote API Minchan Kim
2020-03-06 13:13 ` Vlastimil Babka [this message]
2020-03-06 13:41 ` Oleksandr Natalenko
2020-03-06 16:08 ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-03-09 13:11 ` Oleksandr Natalenko
2020-03-09 15:08 ` Michal Hocko
2020-03-09 15:19 ` Oleksandr Natalenko
2020-03-09 15:42 ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-03-09 16:03 ` Michal Hocko
2020-06-11 2:21 ` Jann Horn
2020-03-02 21:16 ` [PATCH v7 0/7] introduce memory hinting API for external process Andrew Morton
2020-03-02 21:42 ` Minchan Kim
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