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From: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
To: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
Cc: dhowells@redhat.com, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
	Ted Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	willy@infradead.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Do we need to unrevert "fs: do not prefault sys_write() user buffer pages"?
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2021 17:27:01 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3225322.1624379221@warthog.procyon.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YNIBb5WPrk8nnKKn@zeniv-ca.linux.org.uk>

Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk> wrote:

> On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 04:20:40PM +0100, David Howells wrote:
> 
> > and wondering if the iov_iter_fault_in_readable() is actually effective.
> > Yes, it can make sure that the page we're intending to modify is dragged
> > into the pagecache and marked uptodate so that it can be read from, but is
> > it possible for the page to then get reclaimed before we get to
> > iov_iter_copy_from_user_atomic()?  a_ops->write_begin() could potentially
> > take a long time, say if it has to go and get a lock/lease from a server.
> 
> Yes, it is.  So what?  We'll just retry.  You *can't* take faults while
> holding some pages locked; not without shitloads of deadlocks.

In that case, can we amend the comment immediately above
iov_iter_fault_in_readable()?

	/*
	 * Bring in the user page that we will copy from _first_.
	 * Otherwise there's a nasty deadlock on copying from the
	 * same page as we're writing to, without it being marked
	 * up-to-date.
	 *
	 * Not only is this an optimisation, but it is also required
	 * to check that the address is actually valid, when atomic
	 * usercopies are used, below.
	 */
	if (unlikely(iov_iter_fault_in_readable(i, bytes))) {

The first part suggests this is for deadlock avoidance.  If that's not true,
then this should perhaps be changed.

David



  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-06-22 16:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-22 15:20 Do we need to unrevert "fs: do not prefault sys_write() user buffer pages"? David Howells
2021-06-22 15:27 ` Al Viro
2021-06-22 15:36   ` Al Viro
2021-06-22 17:25     ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-06-22 17:39       ` Linus Torvalds
2021-06-22 17:55       ` David Howells
2021-06-22 18:04         ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-06-22 18:07           ` Linus Torvalds
2021-06-22 18:16             ` Nadav Amit
2021-06-22 18:23             ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-06-22 18:28               ` Linus Torvalds
2021-06-22 18:36                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-06-22 18:51                   ` Nadav Amit
2021-06-22 18:57                     ` Linus Torvalds
2021-06-22 18:23           ` David Howells
2021-06-22 18:32             ` Linus Torvalds
2021-06-22 18:13         ` David Howells
2021-06-22 15:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-06-22 15:53   ` Linus Torvalds
2021-06-22 15:32 ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-06-22 16:27 ` David Howells [this message]
2021-06-22 21:55   ` David Laight
2021-06-22 22:04     ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-06-22 22:31       ` David Laight
2021-06-22 22:20     ` Dave Chinner

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