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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Toshiki Fukasawa <t-fukasawa@vx.jp.nec.com>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"dan.j.williams@intel.com" <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
Cc: "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"akpm@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"mhocko@kernel.org" <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	"adobriyan@gmail.com" <adobriyan@gmail.com>,
	"hch@lst.de" <hch@lst.de>,
	"longman@redhat.com" <longman@redhat.com>,
	"sfr@canb.auug.org.au" <sfr@canb.auug.org.au>,
	"mst@redhat.com" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Naoya Horiguchi <n-horiguchi@ah.jp.nec.com>,
	Junichi Nomura <j-nomura@ce.jp.nec.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2] mm: initialize struct pages reserved by ZONE_DEVICE driver.
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2019 09:13:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <38e58d23-c20b-4e68-5f56-20bba2be2d6c@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <31fd3c86-5852-1863-93bd-8df9da9f95b4@vx.jp.nec.com>

On 17.09.19 04:34, Toshiki Fukasawa wrote:
> On 2019/09/09 16:46, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> Let's take a step back here to understand the issues I am aware of. I
>> think we should solve this for good now:
>>
>> A PFN walker takes a look at a random PFN at a random point in time. It
>> finds a PFN with SECTION_MARKED_PRESENT && !SECTION_IS_ONLINE. The
>> options are:
>>
>> 1. It is buddy memory (add_memory()) that has not been online yet. The
>> memmap contains garbage. Don't access.
>>
>> 2. It is ZONE_DEVICE memory with a valid memmap. Access it.
>>
>> 3. It is ZONE_DEVICE memory with an invalid memmap, because the section
>> is only partially present: E.g., device starts at offset 64MB within a
>> section or the device ends at offset 64MB within a section. Don't access it.
> 
> I don't agree with case #3. In the case, struct page area is not allocated on
> ZONE_DEVICE, but is allocated on system memory. So I think we can access the
> struct pages. What do you mean "invalid memmap"?
No, that's not the case. There is no memory, especially not system
memory. We only allow partially present sections (sub-section memory
hotplug) for ZONE_DEVICE.

invalid memmap == memmap was not initialized == struct pages contains
garbage. There is a memmap, but accessing it (e.g., pfn_to_nid()) will
trigger a BUG.

-- 

Thanks,

David / dhildenb


  reply	other threads:[~2019-09-17  7:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-09-06  8:09 [RFC PATCH v2] mm: initialize struct pages reserved by ZONE_DEVICE driver Toshiki Fukasawa
2019-09-06  8:45 ` David Hildenbrand
2019-09-06 10:02   ` Toshiki Fukasawa
2019-09-06 10:35     ` David Hildenbrand
2019-09-09  5:48       ` Toshiki Fukasawa
2019-09-09  7:46         ` David Hildenbrand
2019-09-09  8:10           ` David Hildenbrand
2019-09-09 11:53             ` Dan Williams
2019-09-09 12:05               ` David Hildenbrand
2019-09-10  9:21                 ` Dan Williams
2019-09-10 10:10                   ` David Hildenbrand
2019-09-17  2:34           ` Toshiki Fukasawa
2019-09-17  7:13             ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2019-09-17  9:32               ` Toshiki Fukasawa
2019-09-17 10:20                 ` David Hildenbrand
2019-09-18  2:16                   ` Toshiki Fukasawa
2019-09-17 15:49               ` Waiman Long
2019-09-17 16:21                 ` Qian Cai
2019-09-17 17:04                   ` Waiman Long
2019-09-17 20:23                     ` David Hildenbrand
2019-09-18  2:28                     ` Toshiki Fukasawa
2019-09-18  7:30           ` David Hildenbrand
2019-09-10 14:01 ` Michal Hocko
2019-09-10 14:53   ` Dan Williams
2019-09-10 17:35     ` Michal Hocko

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