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From: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>, Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2 7/9] vhost: do not use RCU to synchronize MMU notifier with worker
Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2019 12:41:45 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <494ac30d-b750-52c8-b927-16cd4b9414c4@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e8ecb811-6653-cff4-bc11-81f4ccb0dbbf@redhat.com>


On 2019/8/5 下午12:36, Jason Wang wrote:
>
> On 2019/8/2 下午10:27, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>> On Fri, Aug 02, 2019 at 09:46:13AM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
>>> On Fri, Aug 02, 2019 at 05:40:07PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
>>>>> This must be a proper barrier, like a spinlock, mutex, or
>>>>> synchronize_rcu.
>>>>
>>>> I start with synchronize_rcu() but both you and Michael raise some
>>>> concern.
>>> I've also idly wondered if calling synchronize_rcu() under the various
>>> mm locks is a deadlock situation.
>>>
>>>> Then I try spinlock and mutex:
>>>>
>>>> 1) spinlock: add lots of overhead on datapath, this leads 0 
>>>> performance
>>>> improvement.
>>> I think the topic here is correctness not performance improvement
>> The topic is whether we should revert
>> commit 7f466032dc9 ("vhost: access vq metadata through kernel virtual 
>> address")
>>
>> or keep it in. The only reason to keep it is performance.
>
>
> Maybe it's time to introduce the config option?


Or does it make sense if I post a V3 with:

- introduce config option and disable the optimization by default

- switch from synchronize_rcu() to vhost_flush_work(), but the rest are 
the same

This can give us some breath to decide which way should go for next release?

Thanks


>
>
>>
>> Now as long as all this code is disabled anyway, we can experiment a
>> bit.
>>
>> I personally feel we would be best served by having two code paths:
>>
>> - Access to VM memory directly mapped into kernel
>> - Access to userspace
>>
>>
>> Having it all cleanly split will allow a bunch of optimizations, for
>> example for years now we planned to be able to process an incoming short
>> packet directly on softirq path, or an outgoing on directly within
>> eventfd.
>
>
> It's not hard consider we've already had our own accssors. But the 
> question is (as asked in another thread), do you want permanent GUP or 
> still use MMU notifiers.
>
> Thanks
>
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  reply	other threads:[~2019-08-05  4:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-31  8:46 [PATCH V2 0/9] Fixes for metadata accelreation Jason Wang
2019-07-31  8:46 ` [PATCH V2 1/9] vhost: don't set uaddr for invalid address Jason Wang
2019-07-31  8:46 ` [PATCH V2 2/9] vhost: validate MMU notifier registration Jason Wang
2019-07-31  8:46 ` [PATCH V2 3/9] vhost: fix vhost map leak Jason Wang
2019-07-31  8:46 ` [PATCH V2 4/9] vhost: reset invalidate_count in vhost_set_vring_num_addr() Jason Wang
2019-07-31 12:41   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-07-31 13:29     ` Jason Wang
2019-07-31 19:32       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-07-31 19:37         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-01  5:03         ` Jason Wang
2019-07-31  8:46 ` [PATCH V2 5/9] vhost: mark dirty pages during map uninit Jason Wang
2019-07-31  8:46 ` [PATCH V2 6/9] vhost: don't do synchronize_rcu() in vhost_uninit_vq_maps() Jason Wang
2019-07-31  8:46 ` [PATCH V2 7/9] vhost: do not use RCU to synchronize MMU notifier with worker Jason Wang
2019-07-31  8:50   ` Jason Wang
2019-07-31 12:39   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-07-31 13:28     ` Jason Wang
2019-07-31 19:30       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-01  5:02         ` Jason Wang
2019-08-01 14:15           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-02  9:40             ` Jason Wang
2019-08-02 12:46               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-02 14:27                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-02 17:24                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-03 21:36                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-04  0:14                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-04  8:07                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-05  4:39                           ` Jason Wang
2019-08-06 11:53                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-06 13:36                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-06 13:40                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-05  4:36                   ` Jason Wang
2019-08-05  4:41                     ` Jason Wang [this message]
2019-08-05  6:40                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-05  8:24                         ` Jason Wang
2019-08-05  6:30                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-05  8:22                       ` Jason Wang
2019-08-05  4:20                 ` Jason Wang
2019-08-06 12:04                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-07  6:49                     ` Jason Wang
2019-08-02 14:03               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-05  4:33                 ` Jason Wang
2019-08-05  6:28                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-05  8:21                     ` Jason Wang
2019-07-31 18:29   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-01  8:06     ` Jason Wang
2019-08-03 21:54       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-05  8:18         ` Jason Wang
2019-07-31  8:46 ` [PATCH V2 8/9] vhost: correctly set dirty pages in MMU notifiers callback Jason Wang
2019-07-31  8:46 ` [PATCH V2 9/9] vhost: do not return -EAGIAN for non blocking invalidation too early Jason Wang
2019-07-31  9:59   ` Stefano Garzarella
2019-07-31 10:05     ` Jason Wang

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