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From: Nadav Amit <nadav.amit@gmail.com>
To: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
Cc: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	"open list:MEMORY MANAGEMENT" <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: Potential race in TLB flush batching?
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 09:04:11 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <68D28CCA-10CC-48F8-A38F-B682A98A4BA5@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170727072113.dpv2nsqaft3inpru@suse.de>

Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de> wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 04:04:20PM +0900, Minchan Kim wrote:
>>> There is one issue I forgot: pte_accessible() on x86 regards
>>> mm_tlb_flush_pending() as an indication for NUMA migration. But now the code
>>> does not make too much sense:
>>> 
>>>        if ((pte_flags(a) & _PAGE_PROTNONE) &&
>>>                        mm_tlb_flush_pending(mm))
>>> 
>>> Either we remove the _PAGE_PROTNONE check or we need to use the atomic field
>>> to count separately pending flushes due to migration and due to other
>>> reasons. The first option is safer, but Mel objected to it, because of the
>>> performance implications. The second one requires some thought on how to
>>> build a single counter for multiple reasons and avoid a potential overflow.
>>> 
>>> Thoughts?
>> 
>> I'm really new for the autoNUMA so not sure I understand your concern
>> If your concern is that increasing places where add up pending count,
>> autoNUMA performance might be hurt. Right?
>> If so, above _PAGE_PROTNONE check will filter out most of cases?
>> Maybe, Mel could answer.
> 
> I'm not sure what I'm being asked. In the case above, the TLB flush pending
> is only relevant against autonuma-related races so only those PTEs are
> checked to limit overhead. It could be checked on every PTE but it's
> adding more compiler barriers or more atomic reads which do not appear
> necessary. If the check is removed, a comment should be added explaining
> why every PTE has to be checked.

I considered breaking tlb_flush_pending to two: tlb_flush_pending_numa and
tlb_flush_pending_other (they can share one atomic64_t field). This way,
pte_accessible() would only consider “tlb_flush_pending_numa", and the
changes that Minchan proposed would not increase the number unnecessary TLB
flushes.

However, considering the complexity of the TLB flushes scheme, and the fact
I am not fully convinced all of these TLB flushes are indeed unnecessary, I
will put it aside.

Nadav
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  reply	other threads:[~2017-07-27 16:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-07-11  0:52 Potential race in TLB flush batching? Nadav Amit
2017-07-11  6:41 ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-11  7:30   ` Nadav Amit
2017-07-11  9:29     ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-11 10:40       ` Nadav Amit
2017-07-11 13:20         ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-11 14:58           ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-07-11 15:53             ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-11 17:23               ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-07-11 19:18                 ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-11 20:06                   ` Nadav Amit
2017-07-11 21:09                     ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-11 20:09                   ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-11 21:52                     ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-11 22:27                       ` Nadav Amit
2017-07-11 22:34                         ` Nadav Amit
2017-07-12  8:27                         ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-12 23:27                           ` Nadav Amit
2017-07-12 23:36                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-07-12 23:42                               ` Nadav Amit
2017-07-13  5:38                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-07-13 16:05                                   ` Nadav Amit
2017-07-13 16:06                                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-07-13  6:07                             ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-13 16:08                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-07-13 17:07                                 ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-13 17:15                                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-07-13 18:23                                     ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-14 23:16                               ` Nadav Amit
2017-07-15 15:55                                 ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-15 16:41                                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-07-17  7:49                                     ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-18 21:28                                   ` Nadav Amit
2017-07-19  7:41                                     ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-19 19:41                                       ` Nadav Amit
2017-07-19 19:58                                         ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-19 20:20                                           ` Nadav Amit
2017-07-19 21:47                                             ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-19 22:19                                               ` Nadav Amit
2017-07-19 22:59                                                 ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-19 23:39                                                   ` Nadav Amit
2017-07-20  7:43                                                     ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-22  1:19                                                       ` Nadav Amit
2017-07-24  9:58                                                         ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-24 19:46                                                           ` Nadav Amit
2017-07-25  7:37                                                           ` Minchan Kim
2017-07-25  8:51                                                             ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-25  9:11                                                               ` Minchan Kim
2017-07-25 10:10                                                                 ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-26  5:43                                                                   ` Minchan Kim
2017-07-26  9:22                                                                     ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-26 19:18                                                                       ` Nadav Amit
2017-07-26 23:40                                                                         ` Minchan Kim
2017-07-27  0:09                                                                           ` Nadav Amit
2017-07-27  0:34                                                                             ` Minchan Kim
2017-07-27  0:48                                                                               ` Nadav Amit
2017-07-27  1:13                                                                                 ` Nadav Amit
2017-07-27  7:04                                                                                   ` Minchan Kim
2017-07-27  7:21                                                                                     ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-27 16:04                                                                                       ` Nadav Amit [this message]
2017-07-27 17:36                                                                                         ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-26 23:44                                                                       ` Minchan Kim
2017-07-11 22:07                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-07-11 22:33                     ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-14  7:00                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2017-07-14  8:31                       ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-14  9:02                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2017-07-14  9:27                           ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-14 22:21                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-07-11 16:22           ` Nadav Amit

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