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From: "ying.huang@intel.com" <ying.huang@intel.com>
To: Wei Xu <weixugc@google.com>,
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	Hesham Almatary <hesham.almatary@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: RFC: Memory Tiering Kernel Interfaces (v2)
Date: Fri, 13 May 2022 11:25:34 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <69f2d063a15f8c4afb4688af7b7890f32af55391.camel@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAPL-u-DGLcKRVDnChN9ZhxPkfxQvz9Sb93kVoX_4J2oiJSkUw@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, 2022-05-11 at 23:22 -0700, Wei Xu wrote:
> 
> Memory Allocation for Demotion
> ==============================
> 
> To allocate a new page as the demotion target for a page, the kernel
> calls the allocation function (__alloc_pages_nodemask) with the
> source page node as the preferred node and the union of all lower
> tier nodes as the allowed nodemask.  The actual target node selection
> then follows the allocation fallback order that the kernel has
> already defined.
> 
> The pseudo code looks like:
> 
>     targets = NODE_MASK_NONE;
>     src_nid = page_to_nid(page);
>     src_tier = node_tier_map[src_nid];
>     for (i = src_tier + 1; i < MAX_MEMORY_TIERS; i++)
>             nodes_or(targets, targets, memory_tiers[i]);
>     new_page = __alloc_pages_nodemask(gfp, order, src_nid, targets);
> 
> The memopolicy of cpuset, vma and owner task of the source page can
> be set to refine the demotion target nodemask, e.g. to prevent
> demotion or select a particular allowed node as the demotion target.

Consider a system with 3 tiers, if we want to demote some pages from
tier 0, the desired behavior is,

- Allocate pages from tier 1
- If there's no enough free pages in tier 1, wakeup kswapd of tier 1 so
demote some pages from tier 1 to tier 2
- If there's still no enough free pages in tier 1, allocate pages from
tier 2.

In this way, tier 0 will have the hottest pages, while tier 1 will have
the coldest pages.

With your proposed method, the demoting from tier 0 behavior is,

- Allocate pages from tier 1
- If there's no enough free pages in tier 1, allocate pages in tier 2

The kswapd of tier 1 will not be waken up until there's no enough free
pages in tier 2.  In quite long time, there's no much hot/cold
differentiation between tier 1 and tier 2.

This isn't hard to be fixed, just call __alloc_pages_nodemask() for each
tier one by one considering page allocation fallback order.

Best Regards,
Huang, Ying




  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-05-13  3:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-12  6:22 RFC: Memory Tiering Kernel Interfaces (v2) Wei Xu
2022-05-12  7:03 ` ying.huang
2022-05-12  7:12   ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-05-12  7:18     ` ying.huang
2022-05-12  7:22     ` Wei Xu
2022-05-12  7:36       ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-05-12  8:15         ` Wei Xu
2022-05-12  8:37           ` ying.huang
2022-05-13  2:52             ` ying.huang
2022-05-13  7:00               ` Wei Xu
2022-05-16  1:57                 ` ying.huang
2022-05-12 21:12           ` Tim Chen
2022-05-12 21:31             ` Wei Xu
2022-05-12 15:00 ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-05-18  7:09   ` Wei Xu
2022-05-18 12:00     ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-05-24  7:36       ` Wei Xu
2022-05-24 13:26         ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-05-25  5:27           ` Wei Xu
2022-05-25  7:47             ` Alistair Popple
2022-05-25 11:48               ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-05-25 15:32                 ` Wei Xu
2022-05-20  3:06     ` Ying Huang
2022-05-24  7:04       ` Wei Xu
2022-05-24  8:24         ` Ying Huang
2022-05-25  5:32           ` Wei Xu
2022-05-25  9:03             ` Ying Huang
2022-05-25 10:01               ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-05-25 11:36                 ` Mika Penttilä
2022-05-25 15:33                   ` Wei Xu
2022-05-25 17:27                 ` Wei Xu
2022-05-26  9:32                   ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-05-26 20:30                     ` Wei Xu
2022-05-27  9:26                   ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-05-25 15:36               ` Wei Xu
2022-05-26  1:09                 ` Ying Huang
2022-05-26  3:53                   ` Wei Xu
2022-05-26  6:54                     ` Ying Huang
2022-05-26  7:08                       ` Wei Xu
2022-05-26  7:39                         ` Ying Huang
2022-05-26 20:55                           ` Wei Xu
2022-05-27  9:10                             ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-05-30  6:54                               ` Ying Huang
2022-05-13  3:25 ` ying.huang [this message]
2022-05-13  6:36   ` Wei Xu
2022-05-13  7:04     ` ying.huang
2022-05-13  7:21       ` Wei Xu

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