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[172.10.233.147]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id s14sm5438260qke.1.2021.08.06.13.27.40 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 06 Aug 2021 13:27:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2021 13:27:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Hugh Dickins X-X-Sender: hugh@ripple.anvils To: Zi Yan cc: Vlastimil Babka , David Hildenbrand , linux-mm@kvack.org, Matthew Wilcox , "Kirill A . Shutemov" , Mike Kravetz , Michal Hocko , John Hubbard , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/15] Make MAX_ORDER adjustable as a kernel boot time parameter. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <6ae6cd92-3ff4-7ed3-b337-a4dfe33da1c@google.com> References: <20210805190253.2795604-1-zi.yan@sent.com> <0d374eed-cc52-a656-b338-1156782bdf7e@suse.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Authentication-Results: imf11.hostedemail.com; dkim=pass header.d=google.com header.s=20161025 header.b=dq7DMYzv; spf=pass (imf11.hostedemail.com: domain of hughd@google.com designates 209.85.222.182 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=hughd@google.com; dmarc=pass (policy=reject) header.from=google.com X-Rspamd-Server: rspam05 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 90171F0052F5 X-Stat-Signature: rs5rxmkb5ewm4b5tkxo1odooh7qy5jaa X-HE-Tag: 1628281662-695118 X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.2.4 Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org Precedence: bulk X-Loop: owner-majordomo@kvack.org List-ID: On Fri, 6 Aug 2021, Zi Yan wrote: > > In addition, I would like to share more detail on my plan on supporting 1GB PUD THP. > This patchset is the first step, enabling kernel to allocate 1GB pages, so that > user can get 1GB THPs from ZONE_NORMAL and ZONE_MOVABLE without using > alloc_contig_pages() or CMA allocator. The next step is to improve kernel memory > fragmentation handling for pages up to MAX_ORDER, since currently pageblock size > is still limited by memory section size. As a result, I will explore solutions > like having additional larger pageblocks (up to MAX_ORDER) to counter memory > fragmentation. I will discover what else needs to be solved as I gradually improve > 1GB PUD THP support. Sorry to be blunt, but let me state my opinion: 2MB THPs have given and continue to give us more than enough trouble. Complicating the kernel's mm further, just to allow 1GB THPs, seems a very bad tradeoff to me. I understand that it's an appealing personal project; but for the sake of of all the rest of us, please leave 1GB huge pages to hugetlbfs (until the day when we are all using 2MB base pages). Hugh