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From: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>
To: Logan Gunthorpe <logang@deltatee.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org
Cc: "Minturn Dave B" <dave.b.minturn@intel.com>,
	"John Hubbard" <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	"Dave Hansen" <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	"Ira Weiny" <iweiny@intel.com>,
	"Matthew Wilcox" <willy@infradead.org>,
	"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	"Jason Gunthorpe" <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
	"Jason Ekstrand" <jason@jlekstrand.net>,
	"Daniel Vetter" <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
	"Dan Williams" <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	"Stephen Bates" <sbates@raithlin.com>,
	"Jakowski Andrzej" <andrzej.jakowski@intel.com>,
	"Christoph Hellwig" <hch@lst.de>,
	"Xiong Jianxin" <jianxin.xiong@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 00/11] Add support to dma_map_sg for P2PDMA
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2021 15:51:37 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6b9be188-1ec7-527c-ae47-3f5b4e153758@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210311233142.7900-1-logang@deltatee.com>

On 2021-03-11 23:31, Logan Gunthorpe wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> This is a rework of the first half of my RFC for doing P2PDMA in userspace
> with O_DIRECT[1].
> 
> The largest issue with that series was the gross way of flagging P2PDMA
> SGL segments. This RFC proposes a different approach, (suggested by
> Dan Williams[2]) which uses the third bit in the page_link field of the
> SGL.
> 
> This approach is a lot less hacky but comes at the cost of adding a
> CONFIG_64BIT dependency to CONFIG_PCI_P2PDMA and using up the last
> scarce bit in the page_link. For our purposes, a 64BIT restriction is
> acceptable but it's not clear if this is ok for all usecases hoping
> to make use of P2PDMA.
> 
> Matthew Wilcox has already suggested (off-list) that this is the wrong
> approach, preferring a new dma mapping operation and an SGL replacement. I
> don't disagree that something along those lines would be a better long
> term solution, but it involves overcoming a lot of challenges to get
> there. Creating a new mapping operation still means adding support to more
> than 25 dma_map_ops implementations (many of which are on obscure
> architectures) or creating a redundant path to fallback with dma_map_sg()
> for every driver that uses the new operation. This RFC is an approach
> that doesn't require overcoming these blocks.

I don't really follow that argument - you're only adding support to two 
implementations with the awkward flag, so why would using a dedicated 
operation instead be any different? Whatever callers need to do if 
dma_pci_p2pdma_supported() says no, they could equally do if 
dma_map_p2p_sg() (or whatever) returns -ENXIO, no?

We don't try to multiplex .map_resource through .map_page, so there 
doesn't seem to be any good reason to force that complexity on .map_sg 
either. And having a distinct API from the outset should make it a lot 
easier to transition to better "list of P2P memory regions" data 
structures in future without rewriting the whole world. As it is, there 
are potential benefits in a P2P interface which can define its own 
behaviour - for instance if threw out the notion of segment merging it 
could save a load of bother by just maintaining the direct correlation 
between pages and DMA addresses.

Robin.

> Any alternative ideas or feedback is welcome.
> 
> These patches are based on v5.12-rc2 and a git branch is available here:
> 
>    https://github.com/sbates130272/linux-p2pmem/  p2pdma_dma_map_ops_rfc
> 
> A branch with the patches from the previous RFC that add userspace
> O_DIRECT support is available at the same URL with the name
> "p2pdma_dma_map_ops_rfc+user" (however, none of the issues with those
> extra patches from the feedback of the last posting have been fixed).
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Logan
> 
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-block/20201106170036.18713-1-logang@deltatee.com/
> [2] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-block/CAPcyv4ifGcrdOtUt8qr7pmFhmecGHqGVre9G0RorGczCGVECQQ@mail.gmail.com/
> 
> --
> 
> Logan Gunthorpe (11):
>    PCI/P2PDMA: Pass gfp_mask flags to upstream_bridge_distance_warn()
>    PCI/P2PDMA: Avoid pci_get_slot() which sleeps
>    PCI/P2PDMA: Attempt to set map_type if it has not been set
>    PCI/P2PDMA: Introduce pci_p2pdma_should_map_bus() and
>      pci_p2pdma_bus_offset()
>    lib/scatterlist: Add flag for indicating P2PDMA segments in an SGL
>    dma-direct: Support PCI P2PDMA pages in dma-direct map_sg
>    dma-mapping: Add flags to dma_map_ops to indicate PCI P2PDMA support
>    iommu/dma: Support PCI P2PDMA pages in dma-iommu map_sg
>    block: Add BLK_STS_P2PDMA
>    nvme-pci: Check DMA ops when indicating support for PCI P2PDMA
>    nvme-pci: Convert to using dma_map_sg for p2pdma pages
> 
>   block/blk-core.c            |  2 +
>   drivers/iommu/dma-iommu.c   | 63 +++++++++++++++++++++-----
>   drivers/nvme/host/core.c    |  3 +-
>   drivers/nvme/host/nvme.h    |  2 +-
>   drivers/nvme/host/pci.c     | 38 +++++++---------
>   drivers/pci/Kconfig         |  2 +-
>   drivers/pci/p2pdma.c        | 89 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++------
>   include/linux/blk_types.h   |  7 +++
>   include/linux/dma-map-ops.h |  3 ++
>   include/linux/dma-mapping.h |  5 +++
>   include/linux/pci-p2pdma.h  | 11 +++++
>   include/linux/scatterlist.h | 49 ++++++++++++++++++--
>   kernel/dma/direct.c         | 35 +++++++++++++--
>   kernel/dma/mapping.c        | 21 +++++++--
>   14 files changed, 271 insertions(+), 59 deletions(-)
> 
> 
> base-commit: a38fd8748464831584a19438cbb3082b5a2dab15
> --
> 2.20.1
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-03-12 15:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-11 23:31 [RFC PATCH v2 00/11] Add support to dma_map_sg for P2PDMA Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-11 23:31 ` [RFC PATCH v2 01/11] PCI/P2PDMA: Pass gfp_mask flags to upstream_bridge_distance_warn() Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-12 20:39   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-03-12 20:53     ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-11 23:31 ` [RFC PATCH v2 02/11] PCI/P2PDMA: Avoid pci_get_slot() which sleeps Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-12 20:57   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-03-12 21:37     ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-11 23:31 ` [RFC PATCH v2 03/11] PCI/P2PDMA: Attempt to set map_type if it has not been set Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-11 23:31 ` [RFC PATCH v2 04/11] PCI/P2PDMA: Introduce pci_p2pdma_should_map_bus() and pci_p2pdma_bus_offset() Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-13  1:38   ` Ira Weiny
2021-03-15 16:27     ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-24 17:21       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-03-24 18:34         ` Christian König
2021-03-13  2:32   ` Ira Weiny
2021-03-15 16:30     ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-16  8:14   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-11 23:31 ` [RFC PATCH v2 05/11] lib/scatterlist: Add flag for indicating P2PDMA segments in an SGL Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-11 23:31 ` [RFC PATCH v2 06/11] dma-direct: Support PCI P2PDMA pages in dma-direct map_sg Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-12 15:52   ` Robin Murphy
2021-03-12 16:24     ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-12 18:11       ` Robin Murphy
2021-03-12 18:27         ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-16  7:58           ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-16 15:54             ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-16  7:56         ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-16  8:11   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-11 23:31 ` [RFC PATCH v2 07/11] dma-mapping: Add flags to dma_map_ops to indicate PCI P2PDMA support Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-13  2:36   ` Ira Weiny
2021-03-15 16:33     ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-16  8:00       ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-16  8:15   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-11 23:31 ` [RFC PATCH v2 08/11] iommu/dma: Support PCI P2PDMA pages in dma-iommu map_sg Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-12 15:52   ` Robin Murphy
2021-03-12 17:03     ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-12 19:47       ` Robin Murphy
2021-03-12 20:06         ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-11 23:31 ` [RFC PATCH v2 09/11] block: Add BLK_STS_P2PDMA Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-16  8:00   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-16 16:02     ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-11 23:31 ` [RFC PATCH v2 10/11] nvme-pci: Check DMA ops when indicating support for PCI P2PDMA Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-11 23:31 ` [RFC PATCH v2 11/11] nvme-pci: Convert to using dma_map_sg for p2pdma pages Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-11 23:59   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-03-12  1:37     ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-12 15:51 ` Robin Murphy [this message]
2021-03-12 16:18   ` [RFC PATCH v2 00/11] Add support to dma_map_sg for P2PDMA Logan Gunthorpe
2021-03-12 17:46     ` Robin Murphy
2021-03-12 18:24       ` Logan Gunthorpe

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