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From: Kirill Tkhai <ktkhai@virtuozzo.com>
To: Adam Borowski <kilobyte@angband.pl>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, dan.j.williams@intel.com,
	mhocko@suse.com, keith.busch@intel.com,
	kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com, pasha.tatashin@oracle.com,
	alexander.h.duyck@linux.intel.com, ira.weiny@intel.com,
	andreyknvl@google.com, arunks@codeaurora.org, vbabka@suse.cz,
	cl@linux.com, riel@surriel.com, keescook@chromium.org,
	hannes@cmpxchg.org, npiggin@gmail.com,
	mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com, shakeelb@google.com, guro@fb.com,
	aarcange@redhat.com, hughd@google.com, jglisse@redhat.com,
	mgorman@techsingularity.net, daniel.m.jordan@oracle.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 0/5] mm: process_vm_mmap() -- syscall for duplication a process mapping
Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 16:10:07 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7136aa47-3ce5-243d-6c92-5893b7b1379d@virtuozzo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190515193841.GA29728@angband.pl>

Hi, Adam,

On 15.05.2019 22:38, Adam Borowski wrote:
> On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 06:11:15PM +0300, Kirill Tkhai wrote:
>> This patchset adds a new syscall, which makes possible
>> to clone a mapping from a process to another process.
>> The syscall supplements the functionality provided
>> by process_vm_writev() and process_vm_readv() syscalls,
>> and it may be useful in many situation.
>>
>> For example, it allows to make a zero copy of data,
>> when process_vm_writev() was previously used:
> 
> I wonder, why not optimize the existing interfaces to do zero copy if
> properly aligned?  No need for a new syscall, and old code would immediately
> benefit.

Because, this is just not possible. You can't zero copy anonymous pages
of a process to pages of a remote process, when they are different pages.

>> There are several problems with process_vm_writev() in this example:
>>
>> 1)it causes pagefault on remote process memory, and it forces
>>   allocation of a new page (if was not preallocated);
>>
>> 2)amount of memory for this example is doubled in a moment --
>>   n pages in current and n pages in remote tasks are occupied
>>   at the same time;
>>
>> 3)received data has no a chance to be properly swapped for
>>   a long time.
> 
> That'll handle all of your above problems, except for making pages
> subject to CoW if written to.  But if making pages writeably shared is
> desired, the old functions have a "flags" argument that doesn't yet have a
> single bit defined.

Kirill


  reply	other threads:[~2019-05-16 13:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-05-15 15:11 [PATCH RFC 0/5] mm: process_vm_mmap() -- syscall for duplication a process mapping Kirill Tkhai
2019-05-15 15:11 ` [PATCH RFC 1/5] mm: Add process_vm_mmap() syscall declaration Kirill Tkhai
2019-05-15 15:11 ` [PATCH RFC 2/5] mm: Extend copy_vma() Kirill Tkhai
2019-05-15 15:11 ` [PATCH RFC 3/5] mm: Extend copy_page_range() Kirill Tkhai
2019-05-15 15:11 ` [PATCH RFC 4/5] mm: Export round_hint_to_min() Kirill Tkhai
2019-05-15 15:11 ` [PATCH RFC 5/5] mm: Add process_vm_mmap() Kirill Tkhai
2019-05-15 18:29   ` Kees Cook
2019-05-16 12:54     ` Kirill Tkhai
2019-05-15 18:46 ` [PATCH RFC 0/5] mm: process_vm_mmap() -- syscall for duplication a process mapping Jann Horn
2019-05-16 13:02   ` Kirill Tkhai
2019-05-16 13:14     ` Jann Horn
2019-05-15 19:38 ` Adam Borowski
2019-05-16 13:10   ` Kirill Tkhai [this message]
2019-05-16 13:42     ` Adam Borowski
2019-05-16 14:25       ` Kirill Tkhai
2019-05-16 13:30 ` Michal Hocko
2019-05-16 13:52   ` Michal Hocko
2019-05-16 14:22     ` Kirill Tkhai
2019-05-16 13:32 ` Jann Horn
2019-05-16 13:56   ` Kirill Tkhai

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