From: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
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Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] mm/madvise: introduce MADV_POPULATE to prefault/prealloc memory
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2021 08:46:18 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <726b0766-9624-69c5-5a45-ffad42c446b1@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210217154844.12392-1-david@redhat.com>
On 2/17/21 7:48 AM, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> While MADV_DONTNEED and FALLOC_FL_PUNCH_HOLE provide us ways to reliably
> discard memory, there is no generic approach to populate ("preallocate")
> memory.
>
> Although mmap() supports MAP_POPULATE, it is not applicable to the concept
> of sparse memory mappings, where we want to do populate/discard
> dynamically and avoid expensive/problematic remappings. In addition,
> we never actually report error during the final populate phase - it is
> best-effort only.
Seems pretty sane to me.
But, I was surprised that MADV_WILLNEED was no mentioned. It might be
nice to touch on on why MADV_WILLNEED is a bad choice for this
functionality? We could theoretically have it populate anonymous
mappings instead of just swapping in.
I guess it's possible that folks are using MADV_WILLNEED on sparse
mappings that they don't want to populate, but it would be nice to get
that in the changelog.
I was also a bit bummed to see the broad VM_IO/PFNMAP restriction show
up again. I was just looking at implementing pre-faulting for the new
SGX driver:
> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/sgx/driver.c
It has a vm_ops->fault handler, but the VMAs are VM_IO. It obviously
don't work with gup, though. Not a deal breaker, and something we could
certainly add to this later.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-02-17 16:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-02-17 15:48 [PATCH RFC] mm/madvise: introduce MADV_POPULATE to prefault/prealloc memory David Hildenbrand
2021-02-17 16:46 ` Dave Hansen [this message]
2021-02-17 17:06 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-02-17 17:21 ` Vlastimil Babka
2021-02-18 11:07 ` Rolf Eike Beer
2021-02-18 11:27 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-02-18 10:25 ` Michal Hocko
2021-02-18 10:44 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-02-18 10:54 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-02-18 11:28 ` Michal Hocko
2021-02-18 11:27 ` Michal Hocko
2021-02-18 11:38 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-02-18 12:22 ` [PATCH RFC] madvise.2: Document MADV_POPULATE David Hildenbrand
2021-02-18 22:59 ` [PATCH RFC] mm/madvise: introduce MADV_POPULATE to prefault/prealloc memory Peter Xu
2021-02-19 8:20 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-02-19 16:31 ` Peter Xu
2021-02-19 17:13 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-02-19 19:14 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-02-19 19:25 ` Mike Kravetz
2021-02-20 9:01 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-02-19 19:23 ` Peter Xu
2021-02-19 20:04 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-02-22 12:46 ` Michal Hocko
2021-02-22 12:52 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-02-19 10:35 ` Michal Hocko
2021-02-19 10:43 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-02-19 11:04 ` Michal Hocko
2021-02-19 11:10 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-02-20 9:12 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-02-22 12:56 ` Michal Hocko
2021-02-22 12:59 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-02-22 13:19 ` Michal Hocko
2021-02-22 13:22 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-02-22 14:02 ` Michal Hocko
2021-02-22 15:30 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-02-24 14:25 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-02-24 14:38 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-02-25 8:41 ` David Hildenbrand
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