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From: Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: <linux-mm@kvack.org>, <nouveau@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	<bskeggs@redhat.com>, <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	<linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<kvm-ppc@vger.kernel.org>, <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	<jhubbard@nvidia.com>, <rcampbell@nvidia.com>,
	<jglisse@redhat.com>, <hch@infradead.org>, <daniel@ffwll.ch>,
	<willy@infradead.org>, "Christoph Hellwig" <hch@lst.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 5/8] mm: Device exclusive memory access
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2021 13:20:05 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9244031.kThbcIvB84@nvdebian> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210401004813.GT1463678@nvidia.com>

On Thursday, 1 April 2021 11:48:13 AM AEDT Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 01, 2021 at 11:45:57AM +1100, Alistair Popple wrote:
> > On Thursday, 1 April 2021 12:46:04 AM AEDT Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > > On Thu, Apr 01, 2021 at 12:27:52AM +1100, Alistair Popple wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, 1 April 2021 12:18:54 AM AEDT Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > > > > On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 11:59:28PM +1100, Alistair Popple wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > I guess that makes sense as the split could go either way at the
> > > > > > moment but I should add a check to make sure this isn't used with
> > > > > > pinned pages anyway.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Is it possible to have a pinned page under one of these things? If I
> > > > > pin it before you migrate it then it remains pinned but hidden under
> > > > > the swap entry?
> > > > 
> > > > At the moment yes. But I had planned (and this reminded me) to add a 
check 
> > to 
> > > > prevent marking pinned pages for exclusive access. 
> > > 
> > > How do you even do that without races with GUP fast?
> > 
> > Unless I've missed something I think I've convinced myself it should be 
safe 
> > to do the pin check after make_device_exclusive() has replaced all the 
PTEs 
> > with exclusive entries.
> > 
> > GUP fast sequence:
> > 1. Read PTE
> > 2. Pin page
> > 3. Check PTE
> > 4. if PTE changed -> unpin and fallback
> > 
> > If make_device_exclusive() runs after (1) it will either succeed or see 
the 
> > pin from (2) and fail (as desired). GUP should always see the PTE change 
and 
> > fallback which will revoke the exclusive access.
> 
> AFAICT the user can trigger fork at that instant and fork will try to
> copy the desposited migration entry before it has been checked

In that case the child will get a read-only exclusive entry and eventually a 
page copy via do_wp_page() and GUP will fallback (or fail in the case of fast 
only) so the parent's exclusive entry will get removed before the page can be 
pinned and therefore shouldn't split the wrong way.

But that is sounding rather complex, and I am not convinced I haven't missed a 
corner case. It also seems like it shouldn't be necessary to copy exclusive 
entries anyway. I could just remove them and restore the original entry, which 
would be far simpler.

> Jason
> 






  reply	other threads:[~2021-04-01  2:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-26  0:07 [PATCH v7 0/8] Add support for SVM atomics in Nouveau Alistair Popple
2021-03-26  0:07 ` [PATCH v7 1/8] mm: Remove special swap entry functions Alistair Popple
2021-03-30 18:38   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-03-26  0:07 ` [PATCH v7 2/8] mm/swapops: Rework swap entry manipulation code Alistair Popple
2021-03-26  0:08 ` [PATCH v7 3/8] mm/rmap: Split try_to_munlock from try_to_unmap Alistair Popple
2021-03-30 18:49   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-03-30 22:09     ` Alistair Popple
2021-03-30 22:16       ` Alistair Popple
2021-03-30 22:24       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-03-30 22:43         ` John Hubbard
2021-03-30 22:56           ` Alistair Popple
2021-03-31  3:56             ` John Hubbard
2021-03-31  4:09               ` John Hubbard
2021-03-31  4:15               ` Alistair Popple
2021-03-31 11:57                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-04-01  4:36                   ` Alistair Popple
2021-04-01 19:21                     ` Shakeel Butt
2021-03-26  0:08 ` [PATCH v7 4/8] mm/rmap: Split migration into its own function Alistair Popple
2021-03-26  0:08 ` [PATCH v7 5/8] mm: Device exclusive memory access Alistair Popple
2021-03-30 19:32   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-03-31 12:59     ` Alistair Popple
2021-03-31 13:18       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-03-31 13:27         ` Alistair Popple
2021-03-31 13:46           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-04-01  0:45             ` Alistair Popple
2021-04-01  0:48               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-04-01  2:20                 ` Alistair Popple [this message]
2021-04-01 11:55                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-03-26  0:08 ` [PATCH v7 6/8] mm: Selftests for exclusive device memory Alistair Popple
2021-03-26  0:08 ` [PATCH v7 7/8] nouveau/svm: Refactor nouveau_range_fault Alistair Popple
2021-03-26  0:08 ` [PATCH v7 8/8] nouveau/svm: Implement atomic SVM access Alistair Popple

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