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From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>, Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
Cc: Zi Yan <zi.yan@cs.rutgers.edu>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG <s.priebe@profihost.ag>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm, thp: relax __GFP_THISNODE for MADV_HUGEPAGE mappings
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2018 13:10:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <99ee1104-9258-e801-2ba3-a643892cc6c1@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180905070803.GZ14951@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On 09/05/2018 09:08 AM, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Tue 04-09-18 23:44:03, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> [...]
>> That kind of swapping may only pay off in the very long long term,
>> which is what khugepaged is for. khugepaged already takes care of the
>> long term, so we could later argue and think if khugepaged should
>> swapout or not in such condition, but I don't think there's much to
>> argue about the page fault.
> 
> I agree that defrag==always doing a reclaim is not really good and
> benefits are questionable. If you remember this was the primary reason
> why the default has been changed.
> 
>>> Thanks for your and Stefan's testing. I will wait for some more
>>> feedback. I will be offline next few days and if there are no major
>>> objections I will repost with both tested-bys early next week.
>>
>> I'm not so positive about 2 of the above tests if I understood the
>> test correctly.
>>
>> Those results are totally fine if you used the non default memory
>> policy, but with MPOL_DEFAULT and in turn no hard bind of the memory,
>> I'm afraid it'll be even be harder to reproduce when things will go
>> wrong again in those two cases.
> 
> We can and should think about this much more but I would like to have
> this regression closed. So can we address GFP_THISNODE part first and
> build more complex solution on top?
> 
> Is there any objection to my patch which does the similar thing to your
> patch v2 in a different location?

Similar but not the same. It fixes the madvise case, but I wonder about
the no-madvise defrag=defer case, where Zi Yan reports it still causes
swapping.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-09-06 11:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-08-20  3:22 [PATCH 0/2] fix for "pathological THP behavior" Andrea Arcangeli
2018-08-20  3:22 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm: thp: consolidate policy_nodemask call Andrea Arcangeli
2018-08-20  3:22 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm: thp: fix transparent_hugepage/defrag = madvise || always Andrea Arcangeli
2018-08-20  3:26   ` [PATCH 0/1] fix for "pathological THP behavior" v2 Andrea Arcangeli
2018-08-20  3:26     ` [PATCH 1/1] mm: thp: fix transparent_hugepage/defrag = madvise || always Andrea Arcangeli
2018-08-20 12:35   ` [PATCH 2/2] " Zi Yan
2018-08-20 15:32     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2018-08-21 11:50   ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-21 21:40     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2018-08-22  9:02       ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-22 11:07         ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-22 14:24           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2018-08-22 14:45             ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-22 15:24               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2018-08-23 10:50                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-22 15:52         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2018-08-23 10:52           ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-28  7:53             ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-28  8:18               ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-28  8:54                 ` Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
2018-08-29 11:11                   ` Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
     [not found]                 ` <D5F4A33C-0A37-495C-9468-D6866A862097@cs.rutgers.edu>
2018-08-29 14:28                   ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-29 14:35                     ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-29 15:22                       ` Zi Yan
2018-08-29 15:47                         ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-29 16:06                           ` Zi Yan
2018-08-29 16:25                             ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-29 19:24                               ` [PATCH] mm, thp: relax __GFP_THISNODE for MADV_HUGEPAGE mappings Michal Hocko
2018-08-29 22:54                                 ` Zi Yan
2018-08-30  7:00                                   ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-30 13:22                                     ` Zi Yan
2018-08-30 13:45                                       ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-30 14:02                                         ` Zi Yan
2018-08-30 16:19                                           ` Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
2018-08-30 16:40                                           ` Michal Hocko
2018-09-05  3:44                                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2018-09-05  7:08                                               ` Michal Hocko
2018-09-06 11:10                                                 ` Vlastimil Babka [this message]
2018-09-06 11:16                                                   ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-09-06 11:25                                                     ` Michal Hocko
2018-09-06 12:35                                                       ` Zi Yan
2018-09-06 10:59                                   ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-09-06 11:17                                     ` Zi Yan
2018-08-30  6:47                                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-09-06 11:18                                   ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-09-06 11:27                                     ` Michal Hocko
2018-09-12 17:29                                 ` Mel Gorman
2018-09-17  6:11                                   ` Michal Hocko
2018-09-17  7:04                                     ` Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
2018-09-17  9:32                                       ` Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
2018-09-17 11:27                                       ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-20 11:58 ` [PATCH 0/2] fix for "pathological THP behavior" Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-08-20 15:19   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2018-08-21 15:30     ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-08-21 17:26       ` David Rientjes
2018-08-21 22:18         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2018-08-21 22:05       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2018-08-22  9:24       ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-22 15:56         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2018-08-20 19:06   ` Yang Shi
2018-08-20 23:24     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2018-09-07 13:05 [PATCH] mm, thp: relax __GFP_THISNODE for MADV_HUGEPAGE mappings Michal Hocko
2018-09-08 18:52 ` Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
2018-09-10  7:39   ` Michal Hocko
2018-09-11  9:03   ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-09-10 20:08 ` David Rientjes
2018-09-10 20:22   ` Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
2018-09-11  8:51   ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-09-11 11:56   ` Michal Hocko
2018-09-11 20:30     ` David Rientjes
2018-09-12 12:05       ` Michal Hocko
2018-09-12 20:40         ` David Rientjes
2018-09-12 13:54     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2018-09-12 14:21       ` Michal Hocko
2018-09-12 15:25         ` Michal Hocko

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