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From: Vasily Averin <vvs@virtuozzo.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov.dev@gmail.com>,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kernel@openvz.org,
	"Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)" <urezki@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH mm] vmalloc: back off when the current task is OOM-killed
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2021 09:18:21 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9eb3d50d-9777-087d-eee8-36573f32cf14@virtuozzo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210921115523.8606cea0b2f0a5ca4e79cbd0@linux-foundation.org>

On 9/21/21 9:55 PM, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Sep 2021 13:59:35 +0300 Vasily Averin <vvs@virtuozzo.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 9/20/21 4:22 AM, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
>>> On 2021/09/20 8:31, Andrew Morton wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 17 Sep 2021 11:06:49 +0300 Vasily Averin <vvs@virtuozzo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Huge vmalloc allocation on heavy loaded node can lead to a global
>>>>> memory shortage. A task called vmalloc can have the worst badness
>>>>> and be chosen by OOM-killer, however received fatal signal and
>>>>> oom victim mark does not interrupt allocation cycle. Vmalloc will
>>>>> continue allocating pages over and over again, exacerbating the crisis
>>>>> and consuming the memory freed up by another killed tasks.
>>>>>
>>>>> This patch allows OOM-killer to break vmalloc cycle, makes OOM more
>>>>> effective and avoid host panic.
>>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunately it is not 100% safe. Previous attempt to break vmalloc
>>>>> cycle was reverted by commit b8c8a338f75e ("Revert "vmalloc: back off when
>>>>> the current task is killed"") due to some vmalloc callers did not handled
>>>>> failures properly. Found issues was resolved, however, there may
>>>>> be other similar places.
>>>>
>>>> Well that was lame of us.
>>>>
>>>> I believe that at least one of the kernel testbots can utilize fault
>>>> injection.  If we were to wire up vmalloc (as we have done with slab
>>>> and pagealloc) then this will help to locate such buggy vmalloc callers.
>>
>> Andrew, could you please clarify how we can do it?
>> Do you mean we can use exsiting allocation fault injection infrastructure to trigger
>> such kind of issues? Unfortunately I found no ways to reach this goal.
>> It  allows to emulate single faults with small probability, however it is not enough,
>> we need to completely disable all vmalloc allocations. 
> 
> I don't see why there's a problem?  You're saying "there might still be
> vmalloc() callers which don't correctly handle allocation failures",
> yes?
> 
> I'm suggesting that we use fault injection to cause a small proportion
> of vmalloc() calls to artificially fail, so such buggy callers will
> eventually be found and fixed.  Why does such a scheme require that
> *all* vmalloc() calls fail?

Let me explain.
1) it is not trivial to use current allocation fault injection to cause
a small proportion of vmalloc() calls to artificially fail.

vmalloc
 __vmalloc_node
  __vmalloc_node_range
   __vmalloc_area_node
    vm_area_alloc_pages
 
vm_area_alloc_pages uses new __alloc_pages_bulk subsystem, requesting up to 100 pages in cycle.
__alloc_pages_bulk() can be interrupted by allocation fault injection, however in this case
vm_area_alloc_pages() will failback to old-style page allocation cycle.
In general case it successfully finishes allocation and vmalloc itself will not fail.

To fail vmalloc we need to fail both alloc_pages_bulk_array_node() and alloc_pages_node() together.

2) if we failed single vmalloc it is not enough.
I would remind, we want to emulate fatal signal reaction.
However I afraid dying task can execute a quite complex rollback procedure.
This rollback can call another vmalloc and last one will be failed
again on fatal_signal_pending check.

To emulate this behavior in fault injection we need to disable all following
vmalloc calls of our victim, pseudo-"dying" task.

I doubt both these goals can be reached by current allocation fault injection subsystem,
I do not understand how to configure it accordingly.

Thank you,
	Vasily Averin


  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-22  6:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-10 12:39 [PATCH memcg] memcg: prohibit unconditional exceeding the limit of dying tasks Vasily Averin
2021-09-10 13:04 ` Tetsuo Handa
2021-09-10 13:20   ` Vasily Averin
2021-09-10 14:55     ` Michal Hocko
2021-09-13  8:29       ` Vasily Averin
2021-09-13  8:42         ` Michal Hocko
2021-09-17  8:06           ` [PATCH mm] vmalloc: back off when the current task is OOM-killed Vasily Averin
2021-09-19 23:31             ` Andrew Morton
2021-09-20  1:22               ` Tetsuo Handa
2021-09-20 10:59                 ` Vasily Averin
2021-09-21 18:55                   ` Andrew Morton
2021-09-22  6:18                     ` Vasily Averin [this message]
2021-09-22 12:27             ` Michal Hocko
2021-09-23  6:49               ` Vasily Averin
2021-09-24  7:55                 ` Michal Hocko
2021-09-27  9:36                   ` Vasily Averin
2021-09-27 11:08                     ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-05 13:52                       ` [PATCH mm v2] " Vasily Averin
2021-10-05 14:00                         ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-07 10:47                         ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-07 19:55                         ` Andrew Morton
2021-09-10 13:07 ` [PATCH memcg] memcg: prohibit unconditional exceeding the limit of dying tasks Vasily Averin
2021-09-13  7:51 ` Vasily Averin
2021-09-13  8:39   ` Michal Hocko
2021-09-13  9:37     ` Vasily Averin
2021-09-13 10:10       ` Michal Hocko
2021-09-13  8:53 ` Michal Hocko
2021-09-13 10:35   ` Vasily Averin
2021-09-13 10:55     ` Michal Hocko
2021-09-14 10:01       ` Vasily Averin
2021-09-14 10:10         ` [PATCH memcg v2] " Vasily Averin
2021-09-16 12:55           ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-05 13:52             ` [PATCH memcg v3] " Vasily Averin
2021-10-05 14:55               ` Michal Hocko

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