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I've organized miniconf's at >>> plumbers before, it is far simpler than LSFMMBPF. You only have >>> to worry about one thing, is this presentation useful. I no longer >>> have to worry about am I inviting the right people, do we have >>> enough money to cover the space. Is there enough space for >>> everybody? Etc. >> >> We=E2=80=99ve talked about working closely with KS, Plumbers and the >> Linuxfoundation to make a big picture map of the content and >> frequency for these confs. > > And, lest anyone think we all operate in isolation, we do get together > periodically to discuss venues, selection and combination. The last > big in-person meeting on this topic was at Plumbers in Vancouver in > 2019, where we had Plumbers, KS/MS, LSF/MM and the LF conference=20 > people > all represented. Yeah, there=E2=80=99s a lot of cross-over between all the PCs, so we have= lots=20 of chances to talk it through. > >> I=E2=80=99m sure Angela is having a busy few weeks, but lets work wi= th=20 >> her >> to schedule this and talk it through. OSS is a good fit in terms of >> being flexible enough to fit us in, hopefully we can make that work. > > And, for everyone who gave us feedback in the Plumbers surveys that=20 > co- > locating with a big conference is *not* what you want because of > various problems like hallway track disruptions due to other=20 > conference > traffic and simply the difficulty of finding people, the current model > under consideration is one conference organization (the LF) but two > separate venues, sort of like OpenStack used to do for their big > conference and design summit to minimize disruption and increase > developer focus. > Agreed, but I do like the idea of doing the plenary in the bigger=20 conference sessions. -chris