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From: Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>
To: "H.J. Lu" <hjl.tools@gmail.com>
Cc: "Zhang, Xiang1" <xiang1.zhang@intel.com>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
	 "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	 "Lutomirski, Andy" <luto@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	 "the arch/x86 maintainers" <x86@kernel.org>,
	Andrey Ryabinin <aryabinin@virtuozzo.com>,
	 Alexander Potapenko <glider@google.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	 Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>, Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	 LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Carlos O'Donell" <carlos@redhat.com>,
	 Marco Elver <elver@google.com>,
	Taras Madan <tarasmadan@google.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/9] Linear Address Masking enabling
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2021 07:35:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACT4Y+a2hiJJ1-3u-Vak305L+Qza3DrK4gzJxVOkNC83BBFsyg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMe9rOp+_2LcMWcxxnJVH1CtQQT1Az1V2VW-dXA0_o0eM6iHdQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, 23 Sept 2021 at 02:15, H.J. Lu <hjl.tools@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Wed, 22 Sept 2021 at 03:15, Zhang, Xiang1 <xiang1.zhang@intel.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > There are already in llvm.org.
> > > > One of my old patch is https://reviews.llvm.org/D102472 which has been committed by https://reviews.llvm.org/D102901  and https://reviews.llvm.org/D109790
> > >
> > > Hi Xiang,
> > >
> > > Good sanitizer patches are upstream!
> > >
> > > Please help me to understand the status of other pieces (H.J. you
> > > probably talked about this yesterday, but I wasn't able to build a
> > > complete picture during the talk, I think it will be useful to have
> > > this in written form).
> > >
> > > 1. The presentation mentions "GCC: enable memory tagging with LAM in
> > > x86 codegen".
> > > What exactly is needed? Isn't LAM transparent for codegen? What's the
> > > status in gcc? Does a corresponding change need to be done in llvm?
> > >
> > > 2. "Enable LAM in binutils".
> > > This is already upstream in binutils 2.36, right?
> > >
> > > 3. The mentioned glibc patch:
> > > http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/project/glibc/patch/20210211173711.71736-1-hjl.tools@gmail.com/
> > > Not upstream yet, targeting glibc 2.34.
> >
> > Do we need any support in other libc's, e.g. Android bionic?
>
> Here is my tagged address API proposal:
>
> https://sourceware.org/pipermail/libc-alpha/2021-August/130382.html

Thank you, I got the large picture now.

> > > 4. "Avoid pointer operations incompatible with LAM. memmove: mask out
> > > memory tags before comparing pointers".
> > > Is this upstream? Where is the patch? Are there other similar patches?
> > >
> > > As a side note, regarding the memmove change: do we really need it?
> > > Memory regions can overlap only if they come from the same
> > > allocation/base object. If they come from different allocations, they
> > > can't overlap (undefined behavior already).
> > >
> > > 5. Do we need any additional enabling changes in clang/llvm?
> > >
> > > 6. The kernel patches (this email thread) depend on the CET patches
> > > (for the interface part only). And the CET patches is this, right?
> > > https://lore.kernel.org/linux-doc/?q=x86%2Fcet%2Fshstk
> > >
> > > 7. Do I miss anything else?
> > >
> > > H.J. please upload your slides here:
> > > https://linuxplumbersconf.org/event/11/contributions/1010/
> > > It would help with links and copy-pasting text.
> > >
> > > FTR here is the link to the Plumbers talk:
> > > https://youtu.be/zUw0ZVXCwoM?t=10456
> > >
> > > Thank you
> > >
> > >
> > > > BR
> > > > Xiang
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: H.J. Lu <hjl.tools@gmail.com>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 1:16 AM
> > > > To: Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>
> > > > Cc: Kirill A. Shutemov <kirill@shutemov.name>; Kirill A. Shutemov <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>; Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>; Lutomirski, Andy <luto@kernel.org>; Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>; the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>; Andrey Ryabinin <aryabinin@virtuozzo.com>; Alexander Potapenko <glider@google.com>; Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>; Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>; Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>; Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>; LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>; Carlos O'Donell <carlos@redhat.com>; Marco Elver <elver@google.com>; Taras Madan <tarasmadan@google.com>; Zhang, Xiang1 <xiang1.zhang@intel.com>
> > > > Subject: Re: [RFC 0/9] Linear Address Masking enabling
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 9:52 AM Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, 7 Feb 2021 at 15:11, Kirill A. Shutemov <kirill@shutemov.name> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Sun, Feb 07, 2021 at 09:24:23AM +0100, Dmitry Vyukov wrote:
> > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 4:16 PM Kirill A. Shutemov
> > > > > > > <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Linear Address Masking[1] (LAM) modifies the checking that is
> > > > > > > > applied to 64-bit linear addresses, allowing software to use of
> > > > > > > > the untranslated address bits for metadata.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The patchset brings support for LAM for userspace addresses.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The most sensitive part of enabling is change in tlb.c, where
> > > > > > > > CR3 flags get set. Please take a look that what I'm doing makes sense.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The patchset is RFC quality and the code requires more testing
> > > > > > > > before it can be applied.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The userspace API is not finalized yet. The patchset extends API
> > > > > > > > used by
> > > > > > > > ARM64: PR_GET/SET_TAGGED_ADDR_CTRL. The API is adjusted to not
> > > > > > > > imply ARM
> > > > > > > > TBI: it now allows to request a number of bits of metadata
> > > > > > > > needed and report where these bits are located in the address.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > There's an alternative proposal[2] for the API based on Intel
> > > > > > > > CET interface. Please let us know if you prefer one over another.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The feature competes for bits with 5-level paging: LAM_U48 makes
> > > > > > > > it impossible to map anything about 47-bits. The patchset made
> > > > > > > > these capability mutually exclusive: whatever used first wins.
> > > > > > > > LAM_U57 can be combined with mappings above 47-bits.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I include QEMU patch in case if somebody wants to play with the feature.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Exciting! Do you plan to send the QEMU patch to QEMU?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sure. After more testing, once I'm sure it's conforming to the hardware.
> > > > >
> > > > > A follow up after H.J.'s LPC talk:
> > > > > https://linuxplumbersconf.org/event/11/contributions/1010/
> > > > > (also +Carlos)
> > > > >
> > > > > As far as I understood, this kernel series depends on the Intel CET patches.
> > > > >
> > > > > Where are these compiler-rt patches that block gcc support?
> > > >
> > > > Hi Xiang,
> > > >
> > > > Please share your compiler-rt changes for LAM.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > H.J.
>
>
>
> --
> H.J.


  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-23  5:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-05 15:16 [RFC 0/9] Linear Address Masking enabling Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-02-05 15:16 ` [RFC 1/9] mm, arm64: Update PR_SET/GET_TAGGED_ADDR_CTRL interface Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-02-11 16:57   ` Catalin Marinas
2021-02-11 17:06     ` Dave Hansen
2021-02-11 18:26       ` Catalin Marinas
2021-02-05 15:16 ` [QEMU] x86: Implement Linear Address Masking support Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-02-05 15:16 ` [RFC 2/9] x86/mm: Fix CR3_ADDR_MASK Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-02-05 15:16 ` [RFC 3/9] x86: CPUID and CR3/CR4 flags for Linear Address Masking Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-02-05 15:16 ` [RFC 4/9] x86/mm: Introduce TIF_LAM_U57 and TIF_LAM_U48 Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-02-05 15:16 ` [RFC 5/9] x86/mm: Provide untagged_addr() helper Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-02-05 15:16 ` [RFC 6/9] x86/uaccess: Remove tags from the address before checking Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-02-05 15:16 ` [RFC 7/9] x86/mm: Handle tagged memory accesses from kernel threads Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-02-05 15:16 ` [RFC 8/9] x86/mm: Make LAM_U48 and mappings above 47-bits mutually exclusive Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-02-05 15:16 ` [RFC 9/9] x86/mm: Implement PR_SET/GET_TAGGED_ADDR_CTRL with LAM Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-02-05 15:42   ` H.J. Lu
2021-02-07  8:07     ` Dmitry Vyukov
2021-02-07 14:09       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-02-07 14:11         ` Dmitry Vyukov
2021-02-05 15:16 ` [QEMU] x86: Implement Linear Address Masking support Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-02-05 15:49 ` [RFC 0/9] Linear Address Masking enabling Peter Zijlstra
2021-02-05 16:01   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-02-05 16:19     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-02-07  8:24 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2021-02-07 14:11   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-09-21 16:52     ` Dmitry Vyukov
2021-09-21 17:15       ` H.J. Lu
2021-09-22  1:15         ` Zhang, Xiang1
2021-09-22 12:54           ` Dmitry Vyukov
2021-09-22 20:03             ` Dmitry Vyukov
2021-09-22 21:33               ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-09-23  0:15               ` H.J. Lu
2021-09-23  5:35                 ` Dmitry Vyukov [this message]
2021-09-23  0:07             ` H.J. Lu

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