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From: Zhang Mingjun <zhang.mingjun@linaro.org>
To: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
Cc: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
	Marek Szyprowski <m.szyprowski@samsung.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	Haojian Zhuang <haojian.zhuang@linaro.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	troy.zhangmingjun@huawei.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: cma: free cma page to buddy instead of being cpu hot page
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 23:02:30 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGT3LerfYfgdkDd=LnuA8y7SUjOSTbw-HddbuzQ=O3yw-vtnnQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131029122708.GD2400@suse.de>

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On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 8:27 PM, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de> wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 07:49:30PM +0800, Zhang Mingjun wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de> wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 07:42:49PM +0800, zhang.mingjun@linaro.orgwrote:
> > > > From: Mingjun Zhang <troy.zhangmingjun@linaro.org>
> > > >
> > > > free_contig_range frees cma pages one by one and MIGRATE_CMA pages
> will
> > > be
> > > > used as MIGRATE_MOVEABLE pages in the pcp list, it causes unnecessary
> > > > migration action when these pages reused by CMA.
> > > >
> > > > Signed-off-by: Mingjun Zhang <troy.zhangmingjun@linaro.org>
> > > > ---
> > > >  mm/page_alloc.c |    3 ++-
> > > >  1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > > >
> > > > diff --git a/mm/page_alloc.c b/mm/page_alloc.c
> > > > index 0ee638f..84b9d84 100644
> > > > --- a/mm/page_alloc.c
> > > > +++ b/mm/page_alloc.c
> > > > @@ -1362,7 +1362,8 @@ void free_hot_cold_page(struct page *page, int
> > > cold)
> > > >        * excessively into the page allocator
> > > >        */
> > > >       if (migratetype >= MIGRATE_PCPTYPES) {
> > > > -             if (unlikely(is_migrate_isolate(migratetype))) {
> > > > +             if (unlikely(is_migrate_isolate(migratetype))
> > > > +                     || is_migrate_cma(migratetype))
> > > >                       free_one_page(zone, page, 0, migratetype);
> > > >                       goto out;
> > >
> > > This slightly impacts the page allocator free path for a marginal gain
> > > on CMA which are relatively rare allocations. There is no obvious
> > > benefit to this patch as I expect CMA allocations to flush the PCP
> lists
> > >
> > how about keeping the migrate type of CMA page block as MIGRATE_ISOLATED
> > after
> > the alloc_contig_range , and undo_isolate_page_range at the end of
> > free_contig_range?
>
> It would move the cost to the CMA paths so I would complain less. Bear
> in mind as well that forcing everything to go through free_one_page()
> means that every free goes through the zone lock. I doubt you have any
> machine large enough but it is possible for simultaneous CMA allocations
> to now contend on the zone lock that would have been previously fine.
> Hence, I'm interesting in knowing the underlying cause of the problem you
> are experiencing.
>
> my platform uses CMA but disabled CMA's migration func by del MIGRATE_CMA
in fallbacks[MIGRATE_MOVEABLE]. But I find CMA pages can still used by
pagecache or page fault page request from PCP list and cma allocation has to
migrate these page. So I want to free these cma pages to buddy directly not
PCP..

> of course, it will waste the memory outside of the alloc range but in the
> > pageblocks.
> >
>
> I would hope/expect that the loss would only last for the duration of
> the allocation attempt and a small amount of memory.
>
> > > when a range of pages have been isolated and migrated. Is there any
> > > measurable benefit to this patch?
> > >
> > after applying this patch, the video player on my platform works more
> > fluent,
>
> fluent almost always refers to ones command of a spoken language. I do
> not see how a video player can be fluent in anything. What is measurably
> better?
>
> For example, are allocations faster? If so, why? What cost from another
> path is removed as a result of this patch? If the cost is in the PCP
> flush then can it be checked if the PCP flush was unnecessary and called
> unconditionally even though all the pages were freed already? We had
> problems in the past where drain_all_pages() or similar were called
> unnecessarily causing long sync stalls related to IPIs. I'm wondering if
> we are seeing a similar problem here.
>
> Maybe the problem is the complete opposite. Are allocations failing
> because there are PCP pages in the way? In that case, it real fix might
> be to insert a  if the allocation is failing due to per-cpu
> pages.
>
problem is not the allocation failing, but the unexpected cma migration
slows
down the allocation.

>
> > and the driver of video decoder on my test platform using cma alloc/free
> > frequently.
> >
>
> CMA allocations are almost never used outside of these contexts. While I
> appreciate that embedded use is important I'm reluctant to see an impact
> in fast paths unless there is a good reason for every other use case. I
> also am a bit unhappy to see CMA allocations making the zone->lock
> hotter than necessary even if no embedded use case it likely to
> experience the problem in the short-term.
>
> --
> Mel Gorman
> SUSE Labs
>

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-10-29 15:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-28 11:42 [PATCH] mm: cma: free cma page to buddy instead of being cpu hot page zhang.mingjun
2013-10-28 16:04 ` Laura Abbott
2013-10-29  4:54 ` Minchan Kim
2013-10-29  6:41   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-10-29  7:00   ` Zhang Mingjun
2013-10-29  7:25     ` Minchan Kim
2013-10-29 11:17       ` Zhang Mingjun
2013-10-29  9:33 ` Mel Gorman
2013-10-29 11:49   ` Zhang Mingjun
2013-10-29 12:27     ` Mel Gorman
2013-10-29 15:02       ` Zhang Mingjun [this message]
2013-10-29 16:14         ` Laura Abbott
2013-10-30  5:40           ` Minchan Kim
2013-10-31  2:14             ` Laura Abbott
2013-11-01  1:49               ` Minchan Kim
2013-12-23 12:38             ` Wanpeng Li
2013-10-30  2:55         ` Minchan Kim
2013-11-05 21:44   ` Andrew Morton
2013-11-06  6:43     ` Minchan Kim
2013-11-06 23:41       ` Andrew Morton

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