linux-mm.kvack.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Yang Shi <shy828301@gmail.com>
To: Christopher Lameter <cl@linux.com>
Cc: Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>, Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>,
	 David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>,
	 Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	 Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	 Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	 Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov.dev@gmail.com>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	 "linux-doc@vger.kernel.org" <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
	 "linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	 "cgroups@vger.kernel.org" <cgroups@vger.kernel.org>,
	 "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>,
	 Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] mm, slab: Extend vm/drop_caches to shrink kmem slabs
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2019 10:16:13 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHbLzkr+EJWgAQ9VhAdeTtMx+11=AX=mVVEvC-0UihROf2J+PA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0100016b9eb7685e-0a5ab625-abb4-4e79-ab86-07744b1e4c3a-000000@email.amazonses.com>

On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 8:32 AM Christopher Lameter <cl@linux.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 27 Jun 2019, Roman Gushchin wrote:
>
> > so that objects belonging to different memory cgroups can share the same page
> > and kmem_caches.
> >
> > It's a fairly big change though.
>
> Could this be done at another level? Put a cgoup pointer into the
> corresponding structures and then go back to just a single kmen_cache for
> the system as a whole? You can still account them per cgroup and there
> will be no cleanup problem anymore. You could scan through a slab cache
> to remove the objects of a certain cgroup and then the fragmentation
> problem that cgroups create here will be handled by the slab allocators in
> the traditional way. The duplication of the kmem_cache was not designed
> into the allocators but bolted on later.

I'm afraid this may bring in another problem for memcg page reclaim.
When shrinking the slabs, the shrinker may end up scanning a very long
list to find out the slabs for a specific memcg. Particularly for the
count operation, it may have to scan the list from the beginning all
the way down to the end. It may take unbounded time.

When I worked on THP deferred split shrinker problem, I used to do
like this, but it turns out it may take milliseconds to count the
objects on the list, but it may just need reclaim a few of them.

>


  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-06-28 17:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-06-24 17:42 [PATCH 0/2] mm, slab: Extend vm/drop_caches to shrink kmem slabs Waiman Long
2019-06-24 17:42 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm, memcontrol: Add memcg_iterate_all() Waiman Long
2019-06-27 15:07   ` Michal Hocko
2019-06-27 21:03     ` Waiman Long
2019-06-28  7:10       ` Michal Hocko
2019-06-24 17:42 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm, slab: Extend vm/drop_caches to shrink kmem slabs Waiman Long
2019-06-26 20:19   ` Roman Gushchin
2019-06-27 20:57     ` Waiman Long
2019-06-27 21:24       ` Roman Gushchin
2019-06-27 21:31         ` Waiman Long
2019-06-28 15:32         ` Christopher Lameter
2019-06-28 16:33           ` Roman Gushchin
2019-06-28 17:16           ` Yang Shi [this message]
2019-06-28 17:30             ` Roman Gushchin
2019-06-27 21:25       ` Luis Chamberlain
2019-06-27 15:15   ` Michal Hocko
2019-06-27 21:16     ` Waiman Long
2019-06-28  7:31       ` Michal Hocko
2019-07-02 18:41         ` Waiman Long

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to='CAHbLzkr+EJWgAQ9VhAdeTtMx+11=AX=mVVEvC-0UihROf2J+PA@mail.gmail.com' \
    --to=shy828301@gmail.com \
    --cc=aarcange@redhat.com \
    --cc=akpm@linux-foundation.org \
    --cc=cgroups@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=cl@linux.com \
    --cc=corbet@lwn.net \
    --cc=guro@fb.com \
    --cc=hannes@cmpxchg.org \
    --cc=iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com \
    --cc=keescook@chromium.org \
    --cc=linux-doc@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-mm@kvack.org \
    --cc=longman@redhat.com \
    --cc=mcgrof@kernel.org \
    --cc=mhocko@kernel.org \
    --cc=penberg@kernel.org \
    --cc=rientjes@google.com \
    --cc=shakeelb@google.com \
    --cc=vdavydov.dev@gmail.com \
    --cc=viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).