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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
Cc: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Yang Shi <yang.shi@linux.alibaba.com>,
	 Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	 Hillf Danton <hdanton@sina.com>, Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Josef Bacik <josef@toxicpanda.com>,
	 "Kirill A . Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	 mm-commits@vger.kernel.org, Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	 Yu Xu <xuyu@linux.alibaba.com>
Subject: Re: [patch 01/15] mm/memory.c: avoid access flag update TLB flush for retried page fault
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 11:28:14 -0700
Message-ID: <CAHk-=whnBnEFFX8FzjJe_wddJ0o2sgkQ7r9XTu9hZXoM453VbA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200728093910.GB706@gaia>

On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 2:39 AM Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com> wrote:
>
> Possibly, as long as any other optimisations only defer the TLB flushing
> for relatively short time (the fault is transient, it will get a
> broadcast TLBI eventually).

I think that in all normal cases, you will have always gotten the TLB
flush by the time the fault handler has gotten either the mmap lock
for reading, or the page table lock for writing.

So by the time we hit the "oh, spurious fault", I _think_ all the
normal paths will have already flushed.

My main worry would be

 (a) bugs

 (b) some special path that doesn't flush at all, because it knows it
is only loosening restrictions

As mentioned, I do have dim memories of us doing (b) on purpose, but I
can't find it.

I do find:

 - instantiating new page table entries without flushing (because we
assume that the TLB does not cache non-present entries), ie

        /* No need to invalidate - it was non-present before */
        update_mmu_cache(vma, vmf->address, vmf->pte);

 - various cases of

        if (ptep_set_access_flags(..))
                update_mmu_cache(..);

   where the code basically has handed the decision over to the
architecture code.

but if you think those cases are ok on arm, then I think you can do
what x86 does and just make it a no-op.

           Linus


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Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-24  4:14 incoming Andrew Morton
2020-07-24  4:15 ` [patch 01/15] mm/memory.c: avoid access flag update TLB flush for retried page fault Andrew Morton
2020-07-24  4:38   ` Yang Shi
2020-07-24  4:56     ` Andrew Morton
2020-07-24 19:27   ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-24 20:22     ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-25  0:36       ` Yang Shi
2020-07-25  1:29         ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-25 15:58           ` Catalin Marinas
2020-07-28  9:22             ` Will Deacon
2020-07-28  9:39               ` Catalin Marinas
2020-07-28 10:07                 ` Yu Xu
2020-07-28 11:46                   ` Catalin Marinas
2020-07-28 10:21                 ` Will Deacon
2020-07-28 18:28                 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2020-07-27 17:52           ` Yang Shi
2020-07-27 18:04             ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-27 18:42               ` Catalin Marinas
2020-07-27 20:56                 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-27 22:34               ` Yang Shi
2020-07-27  7:31       ` Yu Xu
2020-07-27 11:05         ` Catalin Marinas
2020-07-27 17:01           ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-28 11:19             ` Catalin Marinas
2020-07-27 17:12           ` Yu Xu
2020-07-27 18:04             ` Yang Shi
2020-07-27 18:37               ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-27 22:43                 ` Yang Shi
2020-07-28  0:38                   ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-28  0:13                 ` Yu Xu
2020-07-28 10:53                 ` Nicholas Piggin
2020-07-28 19:02                   ` Linus Torvalds
2020-07-28 22:53                     ` Nicholas Piggin
2020-07-29 13:58                       ` Michael Ellerman
2020-07-28  6:41             ` Yu Xu
2020-07-24  4:15 ` [patch 02/15] mm/mmap.c: close race between munmap() and expand_upwards()/downwards() Andrew Morton
2020-07-24  4:15 ` [patch 03/15] vfs/xattr: mm/shmem: kernfs: release simple xattr entry in a right way Andrew Morton
2020-07-24  4:15 ` [patch 04/15] mm: initialize return of vm_insert_pages Andrew Morton
2020-07-24  4:15 ` [patch 05/15] mm/memcontrol: fix OOPS inside mem_cgroup_get_nr_swap_pages() Andrew Morton
2020-07-24  4:15 ` [patch 06/15] mm/memcg: fix refcount error while moving and swapping Andrew Morton
2020-07-24 13:41   ` Alex Shi
2020-07-24  4:15 ` [patch 07/15] mm: memcg/slab: fix memory leak at non-root kmem_cache destroy Andrew Morton
2020-07-24  4:15 ` [patch 08/15] mm/hugetlb: avoid hardcoding while checking if cma is enabled Andrew Morton
2020-07-24  4:15 ` [patch 09/15] khugepaged: fix null-pointer dereference due to race Andrew Morton
2020-07-24  4:15 ` [patch 10/15] mailmap: add entry for Mike Rapoport Andrew Morton
2020-07-24  4:15 ` [patch 11/15] squashfs: fix length field overlap check in metadata reading Andrew Morton
2020-07-24  4:15 ` [patch 12/15] scripts/decode_stacktrace: strip basepath from all paths Andrew Morton
2020-07-24  4:15 ` [patch 13/15] io-mapping: indicate mapping failure Andrew Morton
2020-07-24  4:15 ` [patch 14/15] MAINTAINERS: add KCOV section Andrew Morton
2020-07-24  4:15 ` [patch 15/15] scripts/gdb: fix lx-symbols 'gdb.error' while loading modules Andrew Morton
2020-07-28  1:19 ` mmotm 2020-07-27-18-18 uploaded Andrew Morton
2020-07-28  2:14   ` Stephen Rothwell
2020-07-28  3:22   ` mmotm 2020-07-27-18-18 uploaded (drivers/scsi/ufs/: SCSI_UFS_EXYNOS) Randy Dunlap
2020-07-28  8:23     ` Alim Akhtar
2020-07-28 12:33   ` mmotm 2020-07-27-18-18 uploaded (mm/page_alloc.c) Randy Dunlap
2020-07-28 21:55     ` Andrew Morton
2020-07-28 22:20       ` Stephen Rothwell
2020-07-28 22:31         ` Andrew Morton
2020-07-29 14:18           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-07-29 14:38             ` David Hildenbrand
2020-07-29 16:14               ` David Hildenbrand
2020-07-29 17:29                 ` Randy Dunlap
2020-07-28 22:39       ` Randy Dunlap
2020-07-29  1:43         ` Nathan Chancellor
2020-07-29  1:44         ` Andrew Morton
2020-07-29  2:04           ` Randy Dunlap
2020-07-29 14:09           ` make oldconfig (Re: mmotm 2020-07-27-18-18 uploaded (mm/page_alloc.c)) Alexey Dobriyan
2020-07-31 23:46 ` mmotm 2020-07-31-16-45 uploaded Andrew Morton
2020-08-01  5:24   ` mmotm 2020-07-31-16-45 uploaded (drivers/staging/vc04_services/) Randy Dunlap

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