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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	stable@vger.kernel.org,
	 Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	 Axel Rasmussen <axelrasmussen@google.com>,
	Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,  Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	 Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	 Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1] mm/gup: fix FOLL_FORCE COW security issue and remove FOLL_COW
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2022 11:48:25 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHk-=wiKm3QjM1_XwWNW8P8drW6s0ZeANm7VKy_1c7WH6RSp3g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220808073232.8808-1-david@redhat.com>

On Mon, Aug 8, 2022 at 12:32 AM David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> For example, a write() via /proc/self/mem to a uffd-wp-protected range has
> to fail instead of silently granting write access and bypassing the
> userspace fault handler.

This, btw, just makes me go "uffd-wp is broken garbage" once more.

It also makes me go "if uffd-wp can disallow ptrace writes, then why
doesn't regular write protect do it"?

IOW, I don't think the patch is wrong (apart from the VM_BUG_ON's that
absolutely must go away), but I get the strong feelign that we instead
should try to get rid of FOLL_FORCE entirely.

If some other user action can stop FOLL_FORCE anyway, then why do we
support it at all?

             Linus


  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-08-09 18:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-08  7:32 [PATCH v1] mm/gup: fix FOLL_FORCE COW security issue and remove FOLL_COW David Hildenbrand
2022-08-08 16:02 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-09 18:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-08-09 18:45   ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-09 18:59     ` Linus Torvalds
2022-08-09 19:07       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-08-09 19:21         ` Linus Torvalds
2022-08-09 21:16         ` David Laight
2022-08-11  7:13       ` [PATCH] sched/all: Change BUG_ON() instances to WARN_ON() Ingo Molnar
2022-08-11 20:43         ` Linus Torvalds
2022-08-11 21:28           ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-08-11 23:22             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-08-14  1:10               ` John Hubbard
2022-08-12  9:29           ` [PATCH v2] sched/all: Change all BUG_ON() instances in the scheduler to WARN_ON_ONCE() Ingo Molnar
     [not found]             ` <20220815144143.zjsiamw5y22bvgki@suse.de>
2022-08-15 22:12               ` John Hubbard
2022-08-21 11:28               ` Ingo Molnar
2022-08-09 18:40 ` [PATCH v1] mm/gup: fix FOLL_FORCE COW security issue and remove FOLL_COW Linus Torvalds
2022-08-09 18:48   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-08-09 18:53     ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-09 19:07     ` Linus Torvalds
2022-08-09 19:20       ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-09 18:48 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2022-08-09 19:09   ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-09 20:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-08-09 20:06   ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-09 20:07   ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-09 20:14     ` Linus Torvalds
2022-08-09 20:20       ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-09 20:30         ` Linus Torvalds
2022-08-09 20:38           ` Linus Torvalds
2022-08-09 20:42           ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-09 20:20       ` Linus Torvalds
2022-08-09 20:23         ` David Hildenbrand

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