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From: Daniel Colascione <dancol@google.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
Cc: Mike Rapoport <rppt@linux.ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	 Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	 Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	 Lokesh Gidra <lokeshgidra@google.com>,
	Nick Kralevich <nnk@google.com>, Nosh Minwalla <nosh@google.com>,
	 Pavel Emelyanov <ovzxemul@gmail.com>,
	Tim Murray <timmurray@google.com>,
	 Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] userfaultfd: require CAP_SYS_PTRACE for UFFD_FEATURE_EVENT_FORK
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2019 08:06:49 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKOZuetu0QWUDAycTOFzC4HEbjH99EtOhb4gJnHAuovT_StpzA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrX=VmSjD6kLT6tuZQ4Efhc_13vZrw1mo4Z2iKqZTT-bzg@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 8:00 AM Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 7:55 AM Daniel Colascione <dancol@google.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 7:29 AM Mike Rapoport <rppt@linux.ibm.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Current implementation of UFFD_FEATURE_EVENT_FORK modifies the file
> > > descriptor table from the read() implementation of uffd, which may have
> > > security implications for unprivileged use of the userfaultfd.
> > >
> > > Limit availability of UFFD_FEATURE_EVENT_FORK only for callers that have
> > > CAP_SYS_PTRACE.
> >
> > Thanks. But shouldn't we be doing the capability check at
> > userfaultfd(2) time (when we do the other permission checks), not
> > later, in the API ioctl?
>
> The ioctl seems reasonable to me.  In particular, if there is anyone
> who creates a userfaultfd as root and then drop permissions, a later
> ioctl could unexpectedly enable FORK.

Sure, but the same argument applies to all the other permission checks
that we do at open time, not at ioctl time. For better or for worse,
the DAC-ish model used in most places is that access checks happen at
file object creation time and anyone who has the FD can perform those
operations later. Confusing the model by doing *some* permission
checks at open time and *some* permission checks at usage time makes
the system harder to understand.


  reply	other threads:[~2019-11-05 16:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-05 15:29 [PATCH 0/1] userfaultfd: require CAP_SYS_PTRACE for UFFD_FEATURE_EVENT_FORK Mike Rapoport
2019-11-05 15:29 ` [PATCH 1/1] " Mike Rapoport
2019-11-05 15:37   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-11-05 15:55   ` Daniel Colascione
2019-11-05 16:00     ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-11-05 16:06       ` Daniel Colascione [this message]
2019-11-05 16:33         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-11-05 16:39           ` Daniel Colascione
2019-11-05 16:55             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-11-05 17:02               ` Daniel Colascione
2019-11-05 17:30                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-11-05 22:01                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-11-05 22:10                   ` Daniel Colascione
2019-11-05 16:24       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-11-05 16:41         ` Daniel Colascione
2019-11-07  8:39           ` Mike Rapoport
2019-11-07  8:54             ` Daniel Colascione
2019-11-07 15:38               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-11-07 16:15                 ` Daniel Colascione
2019-11-07 18:22                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-11-07 18:50                     ` Daniel Colascione
2019-11-07 19:27                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-11-10 17:02                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-11-05 15:59   ` Aleksa Sarai

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