From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-la0-f43.google.com (mail-la0-f43.google.com [209.85.215.43]) by kanga.kvack.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D7A56B0080 for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 14:35:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lagv1 with SMTP id v1so62147579lag.3 for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 11:35:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-la0-f41.google.com (mail-la0-f41.google.com. [209.85.215.41]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w5si5353593lbb.37.2015.05.29.11.35.11 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 29 May 2015 11:35:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by labko7 with SMTP id ko7so58597501lab.2 for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 11:35:11 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <1432739944-22633-1-git-send-email-toshi.kani@hp.com> <1432739944-22633-13-git-send-email-toshi.kani@hp.com> <20150529091129.GC31435@pd.tnic> <1432911782.23540.55.camel@misato.fc.hp.com> From: Andy Lutomirski Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 11:34:50 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 12/12] drivers/block/pmem: Map NVDIMM with ioremap_wt() Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org List-ID: To: Dan Williams Cc: Toshi Kani , Borislav Petkov , Ross Zwisler , "H. Peter Anvin" , Thomas Gleixner , Ingo Molnar , Andrew Morton , Arnd Bergmann , "linux-mm@kvack.org" , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , X86 ML , "linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org" , Juergen Gross , Stefan Bader , Henrique de Moraes Holschuh , Yigal Korman , Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk , "Elliott, Robert (Server Storage)" , Luis Rodriguez , Christoph Hellwig , Matthew Wilcox On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 11:19 AM, Dan Williams wrote: > On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 8:03 AM, Toshi Kani wrote: >> On Fri, 2015-05-29 at 07:43 -0700, Dan Williams wrote: >>> On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 2:11 AM, Borislav Petkov wrote: >>> > On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 09:19:04AM -0600, Toshi Kani wrote: >>> >> The pmem driver maps NVDIMM with ioremap_nocache() as we cannot >>> >> write back the contents of the CPU caches in case of a crash. >>> >> >>> >> This patch changes to use ioremap_wt(), which provides uncached >>> >> writes but cached reads, for improving read performance. >>> >> >>> >> Signed-off-by: Toshi Kani >>> >> --- >>> >> drivers/block/pmem.c | 4 ++-- >>> >> 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) >>> >> >>> >> diff --git a/drivers/block/pmem.c b/drivers/block/pmem.c >>> >> index eabf4a8..095dfaa 100644 >>> >> --- a/drivers/block/pmem.c >>> >> +++ b/drivers/block/pmem.c >>> >> @@ -139,11 +139,11 @@ static struct pmem_device *pmem_alloc(struct device *dev, struct resource *res) >>> >> } >>> >> >>> >> /* >>> >> - * Map the memory as non-cachable, as we can't write back the contents >>> >> + * Map the memory as write-through, as we can't write back the contents >>> >> * of the CPU caches in case of a crash. >>> >> */ >>> >> err = -ENOMEM; >>> >> - pmem->virt_addr = ioremap_nocache(pmem->phys_addr, pmem->size); >>> >> + pmem->virt_addr = ioremap_wt(pmem->phys_addr, pmem->size); >>> >> if (!pmem->virt_addr) >>> >> goto out_release_region; >>> > >>> > Dan, Ross, what about this one? >>> > >>> > ACK to pick it up as a temporary solution? >>> >>> I see that is_new_memtype_allowed() is updated to disallow some >>> combinations, but the manual seems to imply any mixing of memory types >>> is unsupported. Which worries me even in the current code where we >>> have uncached mappings in the driver, and potentially cached DAX >>> mappings handed out to userspace. >> >> is_new_memtype_allowed() is not to allow some combinations of mixing of >> memory types. When it is allowed, the requested type of ioremap_xxx() >> is changed to match with the existing map type, so that mixing of memory >> types does not happen. > > Yes, but now if the caller was expecting one memory type and gets > another one that is something I think the driver would want to know. > At a minimum I don't think we want to get emails about pmem driver > performance problems when someone's platform is silently degrading WB > to UC for example. > >> DAX uses vm_insert_mixed(), which does not even check the existing map >> type to the physical address. > > Right, I think that's a problem... > >>> A general quibble separate from this patch is that we don't have a way >>> of knowing if ioremap() will reject or change our requested memory >>> type. Shouldn't the driver be explicitly requesting a known valid >>> type in advance? >> >> I agree we need a solution here. >> >>> Lastly we now have the PMEM API patches from Ross out for review where >>> he is assuming cached mappings with non-temporal writes: >>> https://lists.01.org/pipermail/linux-nvdimm/2015-May/000929.html. >>> This gives us WC semantics on writes which I believe has the nice >>> property of reducing the number of write transactions to memory. >>> Also, the numbers in the paper seem to be assuming DAX operation, but >>> this ioremap_wt() is in the driver and typically behind a file system. >>> Are the numbers relevant to that usage mode? >> >> I have not looked into the Ross's changes yet, but they do not seem to >> replace the use of ioremap_nocache(). If his changes can use WB type >> reliably, yes, we do not need a temporary solution of using ioremap_wt() >> in this driver. > > Hmm, yes you're right, it seems those patches did not change the > implementation to use ioremap_cache()... which happens to not be > implemented on all architectures. I'll take a look. Whoa, there! Why would we use non-temporal stores to WB memory to access persistent memory? I can see two reasons not to: 1. As far as I understand it, non-temporal stores to WT should have almost identical performance. 2. Is there any actual architectural guarantee that it's safe to have a WB mapping that we use like that? By my reading of the manual, MOVNTDQA (as a write to pmem); SFENCE; PCOMMIT; SFENCE on uncached memory should be guaranteed to do a durable write. On the other hand, it's considerably less clear to me that the same sequence to WB memory is safe -- aren't we supposed to stick a CLWB or CLFLUSHOPT in there, too, on WB memory? In other words, is there any case in which MOVNTDQA or similar acting on a WB mapping could result in a dirty cache line? --Andy -- To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in the body to majordomo@kvack.org. For more info on Linux MM, see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ . Don't email: email@kvack.org