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From: Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>, David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>, Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm, oom: make the calculation of oom badness more accurate
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2020 23:11:43 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALOAHbC+O55ELMHLxk4=_sw0cJRxcWQ-_NEwV+tLQZ2rx0VJdQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200708142806.GJ7271@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 10:28 PM Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> On Wed 08-07-20 09:24:09, Yafang Shao wrote:
> > Recently we found an issue on our production environment that when memcg
> > oom is triggered the oom killer doesn't chose the process with largest
> > resident memory but chose the first scanned process. Note that all
> > processes in this memcg have the same oom_score_adj, so the oom killer
> > should chose the process with largest resident memory.
> >
> > Bellow is part of the oom info, which is enough to analyze this issue.
> > [7516987.983223] memory: usage 16777216kB, limit 16777216kB, failcnt 52843037
> > [7516987.983224] memory+swap: usage 16777216kB, limit 9007199254740988kB, failcnt 0
> > [7516987.983225] kmem: usage 301464kB, limit 9007199254740988kB, failcnt 0
> > [...]
> > [7516987.983293] [ pid ]   uid  tgid total_vm      rss pgtables_bytes swapents oom_score_adj name
> > [7516987.983510] [ 5740]     0  5740      257        1    32768        0          -998 pause
> > [7516987.983574] [58804]     0 58804     4594      771    81920        0          -998 entry_point.bas
> > [7516987.983577] [58908]     0 58908     7089      689    98304        0          -998 cron
> > [7516987.983580] [58910]     0 58910    16235     5576   163840        0          -998 supervisord
> > [7516987.983590] [59620]     0 59620    18074     1395   188416        0          -998 sshd
> > [7516987.983594] [59622]     0 59622    18680     6679   188416        0          -998 python
> > [7516987.983598] [59624]     0 59624  1859266     5161   548864        0          -998 odin-agent
> > [7516987.983600] [59625]     0 59625   707223     9248   983040        0          -998 filebeat
> > [7516987.983604] [59627]     0 59627   416433    64239   774144        0          -998 odin-log-agent
> > [7516987.983607] [59631]     0 59631   180671    15012   385024        0          -998 python3
> > [7516987.983612] [61396]     0 61396   791287     3189   352256        0          -998 client
> > [7516987.983615] [61641]     0 61641  1844642    29089   946176        0          -998 client
> > [7516987.983765] [ 9236]     0  9236     2642      467    53248        0          -998 php_scanner
> > [7516987.983911] [42898]     0 42898    15543      838   167936        0          -998 su
> > [7516987.983915] [42900]  1000 42900     3673      867    77824        0          -998 exec_script_vr2
> > [7516987.983918] [42925]  1000 42925    36475    19033   335872        0          -998 python
> > [7516987.983921] [57146]  1000 57146     3673      848    73728        0          -998 exec_script_J2p
> > [7516987.983925] [57195]  1000 57195   186359    22958   491520        0          -998 python2
> > [7516987.983928] [58376]  1000 58376   275764    14402   290816        0          -998 rosmaster
> > [7516987.983931] [58395]  1000 58395   155166     4449   245760        0          -998 rosout
> > [7516987.983935] [58406]  1000 58406 18285584  3967322 37101568        0          -998 data_sim
> > [7516987.984221] oom-kill:constraint=CONSTRAINT_MEMCG,nodemask=(null),cpuset=3aa16c9482ae3a6f6b78bda68a55d32c87c99b985e0f11331cddf05af6c4d753,mems_allowed=0-1,oom_memcg=/kubepods/podf1c273d3-9b36-11ea-b3df-246e9693c184,task_memcg=/kubepods/podf1c273d3-9b36-11ea-b3df-246e9693c184/1f246a3eeea8f70bf91141eeaf1805346a666e225f823906485ea0b6c37dfc3d,task=pause,pid=5740,uid=0
> > [7516987.984254] Memory cgroup out of memory: Killed process 5740 (pause) total-vm:1028kB, anon-rss:4kB, file-rss:0kB, shmem-rss:0kB
> > [7516988.092344] oom_reaper: reaped process 5740 (pause), now anon-rss:0kB, file-rss:0kB, shmem-rss:0kB
> >
> > We can find that the first scanned process 5740 (pause) was killed, but its
> > rss is only one page. That is because, when we calculate the oom badness in
> > oom_badness(), we always ignore the negtive point and convert all of these
> > negtive points to 1. Now as oom_score_adj of all the processes in this
> > targeted memcg have the same value -998, the points of these processes are
> > all negtive value. As a result, the first scanned process will be killed.
>
> Such a large bias can skew results quite considerably.
>

Right.
Pls. refer the kubernetes doc[1] for more information about this large bias .

[1]. https://kubernetes.io/docs/tasks/administer-cluster/out-of-resource/

> > The oom_socre_adj (-998) in this memcg is set by kubelet, because it is a
> > a Guaranteed pod, which has higher priority to prevent from being killed by
> > system oom.
>
> This is really interesting! I assume that the oom_score_adj is set to
> protect from the global oom situation right?

Right. See also the kubernetes doc.

> I am struggling to
> understand what is the expected behavior when the oom is internal for
> such a group though. Does killing a single task from such a group is a
> sensible choice? I am not really familiar with kubelet but can it cope
> with data_sim going away from under it while the rest would still run?
> Wouldn't it make more sense to simply tear down the whole thing?
>

There are two containers in one kubernetes pod, one of which is a
pause-container, which has only one process - the pause, which is
managing the netns, and the other is the docker-init-container, in
which all other processes are running.
Once the pause process is killed, the kubelet will rebuild all the
containers in this pod, while if one of the processes in the
docker-init-container is killed, the kubelet will try to re-run it.
So tearing down the whole thing is more costly than only trying to
re-running one process.
I'm not familiar with kubernetes as well, that is my understanding.

> But that is a separate thing.

Right.

>
> > To fix this issue, we should make the calculation of oom point more
> > accurate. We can achieve it by convert the chosen_point from 'unsigned
> > long' to 'long'.
>
> oom_score has a very coarse units because it maps all the consumed
> memory into 0 - 1000 scale so effectively per-mille of the usable
> memory. oom_score_adj acts on top of that as a bias. This is
> exported to the userspace and I do not think we can change that (see
> Documentation/filesystems/proc.rst) unfortunately.

In this doc, I only find the oom_score and oom_score_adj is exposed to
the userspace.
While this patch only changes the oom_control->chosen_points, which is
only for oom internally use.
So I don't think we can't change oom_control->chosen_points.


> So you patch cannot
> be really accepted as is because it would start reporting values outside
> of the allowed range unless I am doing some math incorrectly.
>

See above, my patch will not break the userspace at all.

> On the other hand, in this particular case I believe the existing
> calculation is just wrong. Usable memory is 16777216kB (4194304 pages),
> the top consumer is 3976380 pages so 94.8% the lowest memory consumer is
> effectively 0%. Even if we discount 94.8% by 99.8% then we should be
> still having something like 7950 pages. So the normalization oom_badness
> does cuts results too aggressively. There was quite some churn in the
> calculation in the past fixing weird rounding bugs so I have to think
> about how to fix this properly some more.
>
> That being said, even though the configuration is weird I do agree that
> oom_badness scaling is really unexpected and the memory consumption
> in this particular example should be quite telling about who to chose as
> an oom victim.
> --
> Michal Hocko
> SUSE Labs



-- 
Thanks
Yafang


  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-07-08 15:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-08 13:24 [PATCH] mm, oom: make the calculation of oom badness more accurate Yafang Shao
2020-07-08 14:28 ` Michal Hocko
2020-07-08 14:32   ` Michal Hocko
2020-07-08 17:57     ` David Rientjes
2020-07-08 19:02       ` Michal Hocko
2020-07-09  2:14         ` Yafang Shao
2020-07-09  6:26           ` Michal Hocko
2020-07-09  6:41             ` Michal Hocko
2020-07-09  7:31             ` Yafang Shao
2020-07-09  8:17               ` Michal Hocko
2020-07-09  1:57       ` Yafang Shao
2020-07-08 15:11   ` Yafang Shao [this message]
2020-07-08 16:09     ` Michal Hocko
2020-07-09  1:57       ` Yafang Shao

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