From: Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>
To: Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>, Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
Kernel Team <kernel-team@fb.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 10/19] mm: memcg/slab: deprecate memory.kmem.slabinfo
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2020 11:38:09 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALvZod4AeRb9fhw68tNzBCRrcnU4PifjRYn51ioxa-C1RMLGHw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200622182545.GC301338@carbon.dhcp.thefacebook.com>
On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 11:25 AM Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 11:09:47AM -0700, Shakeel Butt wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 11:02 AM Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 10:12:46AM -0700, Shakeel Butt wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 4:07 PM Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Deprecate memory.kmem.slabinfo.
> > > > >
> > > > > An empty file will be presented if corresponding config options are
> > > > > enabled.
> > > > >
> > > > > The interface is implementation dependent, isn't present in cgroup v2,
> > > > > and is generally useful only for core mm debugging purposes. In other
> > > > > words, it doesn't provide any value for the absolute majority of users.
> > > > >
> > > > > A drgn-based replacement can be found in tools/cgroup/slabinfo.py .
> > > > > It does support cgroup v1 and v2, mimics memory.kmem.slabinfo output
> > > > > and also allows to get any additional information without a need
> > > > > to recompile the kernel.
> > > > >
> > > > > If a drgn-based solution is too slow for a task, a bpf-based tracing
> > > > > tool can be used, which can easily keep track of all slab allocations
> > > > > belonging to a memory cgroup.
> > > > >
> > > > > Signed-off-by: Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>
> > > > > Acked-by: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
> > > > > Reviewed-by: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
> > > >
> > > > Hi Roman,
> > > >
> > > > I am not against removing the memory.kmem.slabinfo interface but I
> > > > would like to have an alternative solution more accessible than
> > > > tools/cgroup/slabinfo.py.
> > > >
> > > > In our case, we don't have ssh access and if we need something for
> > > > debugging, it is much more preferable to provide a file to read to
> > > > SREs. After the review, that file will be added to a whitelist and
> > > > then we can directly read that file through automated tools without
> > > > approval for each request.
> > > >
> > > > I am just wondering if a file interface can be provided for whatever
> > > > tools/cgroup/slabinfo.py is providing.
> > > >
> > > > Shakeel
> > >
> > > Hello, Shakeel!
> > >
> > > I understand your point, but Idk how much we wanna make this code a part
> > > of the kernel and the cgroup interface.
> >
> > No need for the cgroup interface. I was thinking of a new interface
> > like /proc/slabinfo_full which tells active objects for each
> > kmem_cache and memcg pair.
>
> To me it's a perfect example where tools like drgn and bpf shine.
> They are more flexible and do not blow the kernel up with
> the debug-only code.
>
> >
> > > The problem is that reading
> > > from it will be really slow in comparison to all other cgroup interface
> > > files. Idk if Google's version of SLAB has a list of all slab pages,
> > > but if not (as in generic SLUB case), it requires scanning of the whole RAM.
> >
> > That's a bummer. Does drgn-based script scan the whole RAM?
>
> To be precise, not over all RAM, but over all struct pages.
> Unfortunately, there is no better option with SLUB, as there is no
> comprehensive list of slab pages available. So the only option is to scan
> over all pages with PageSlab flag set.
>
So, SLUB does not have any field available in the struct page to
support the list of slab pages?
Anyways, that's a separate discussion.
Reviewed-by: Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-06-22 18:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-06-08 23:06 [PATCH v6 00/19] The new cgroup slab memory controller Roman Gushchin
2020-06-08 23:06 ` [PATCH v6 01/19] mm: memcg: factor out memcg- and lruvec-level changes out of __mod_lruvec_state() Roman Gushchin
2020-06-17 1:52 ` Shakeel Butt
2020-06-17 2:50 ` Roman Gushchin
2020-06-17 2:59 ` Shakeel Butt
2020-06-17 3:19 ` Roman Gushchin
2020-06-08 23:06 ` [PATCH v6 02/19] mm: memcg: prepare for byte-sized vmstat items Roman Gushchin
2020-06-17 2:57 ` Shakeel Butt
2020-06-17 3:19 ` Roman Gushchin
2020-06-17 15:55 ` Shakeel Butt
2020-06-08 23:06 ` [PATCH v6 03/19] mm: memcg: convert vmstat slab counters to bytes Roman Gushchin
2020-06-17 3:03 ` Shakeel Butt
2020-06-08 23:06 ` [PATCH v6 04/19] mm: slub: implement SLUB version of obj_to_index() Roman Gushchin
2020-06-17 3:08 ` Shakeel Butt
2020-06-08 23:06 ` [PATCH v6 05/19] mm: memcontrol: decouple reference counting from page accounting Roman Gushchin
2020-06-18 0:47 ` Shakeel Butt
2020-06-18 14:55 ` Shakeel Butt
2020-06-18 19:51 ` Roman Gushchin
2020-06-19 1:08 ` Roman Gushchin
2020-06-19 1:18 ` Shakeel Butt
2020-06-19 1:31 ` Shakeel Butt
2020-06-08 23:06 ` [PATCH v6 06/19] mm: memcg/slab: obj_cgroup API Roman Gushchin
2020-06-19 15:42 ` Shakeel Butt
2020-06-19 21:38 ` Roman Gushchin
2020-06-19 22:16 ` Shakeel Butt
2020-06-19 22:52 ` Roman Gushchin
2020-06-20 22:50 ` Andrew Morton
2020-06-08 23:06 ` [PATCH v6 07/19] mm: memcg/slab: allocate obj_cgroups for non-root slab pages Roman Gushchin
2020-06-19 16:36 ` Shakeel Butt
2020-06-20 0:25 ` Roman Gushchin
2020-06-20 0:31 ` Shakeel Butt
2020-06-08 23:06 ` [PATCH v6 08/19] mm: memcg/slab: save obj_cgroup for non-root slab objects Roman Gushchin
2020-06-20 0:16 ` Shakeel Butt
2020-06-20 1:19 ` Roman Gushchin
2020-06-08 23:06 ` [PATCH v6 09/19] mm: memcg/slab: charge individual slab objects instead of pages Roman Gushchin
2020-06-20 0:54 ` Shakeel Butt
2020-06-20 1:29 ` Roman Gushchin
2020-06-08 23:06 ` [PATCH v6 10/19] mm: memcg/slab: deprecate memory.kmem.slabinfo Roman Gushchin
2020-06-22 17:12 ` Shakeel Butt
2020-06-22 18:01 ` Roman Gushchin
2020-06-22 18:09 ` Shakeel Butt
2020-06-22 18:25 ` Roman Gushchin
2020-06-22 18:38 ` Shakeel Butt [this message]
2020-06-08 23:06 ` [PATCH v6 11/19] mm: memcg/slab: move memcg_kmem_bypass() to memcontrol.h Roman Gushchin
2020-06-20 1:19 ` Shakeel Butt
2020-06-08 23:06 ` [PATCH v6 12/19] mm: memcg/slab: use a single set of kmem_caches for all accounted allocations Roman Gushchin
2020-06-22 16:56 ` Shakeel Butt
2020-06-08 23:06 ` [PATCH v6 13/19] mm: memcg/slab: simplify memcg cache creation Roman Gushchin
2020-06-22 17:29 ` Shakeel Butt
2020-06-22 17:40 ` Roman Gushchin
2020-06-22 18:03 ` Shakeel Butt
2020-06-08 23:06 ` [PATCH v6 14/19] mm: memcg/slab: remove memcg_kmem_get_cache() Roman Gushchin
2020-06-22 18:42 ` Shakeel Butt
2020-06-08 23:06 ` [PATCH v6 15/19] mm: memcg/slab: deprecate slab_root_caches Roman Gushchin
2020-06-22 17:36 ` Shakeel Butt
2020-06-08 23:06 ` [PATCH v6 16/19] mm: memcg/slab: remove redundant check in memcg_accumulate_slabinfo() Roman Gushchin
2020-06-22 17:32 ` Shakeel Butt
2020-06-08 23:06 ` [PATCH v6 17/19] mm: memcg/slab: use a single set of kmem_caches for all allocations Roman Gushchin
2020-06-17 23:35 ` Andrew Morton
2020-06-18 0:35 ` Roman Gushchin
2020-06-18 7:33 ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-06-18 19:54 ` Roman Gushchin
2020-06-22 19:21 ` Shakeel Butt
2020-06-22 20:37 ` Roman Gushchin
2020-06-22 21:04 ` Shakeel Butt
2020-06-22 21:13 ` Roman Gushchin
2020-06-22 21:28 ` Shakeel Butt
2020-06-22 21:58 ` Roman Gushchin
2020-06-22 22:05 ` Shakeel Butt
2020-06-08 23:06 ` [PATCH v6 18/19] kselftests: cgroup: add kernel memory accounting tests Roman Gushchin
2020-06-08 23:06 ` [PATCH v6 19/19] tools/cgroup: add memcg_slabinfo.py tool Roman Gushchin
2020-06-17 1:46 ` [PATCH v6 00/19] The new cgroup slab memory controller Shakeel Butt
2020-06-17 2:41 ` Roman Gushchin
2020-06-17 3:05 ` Shakeel Butt
2020-06-17 3:32 ` Roman Gushchin
2020-06-17 11:24 ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-06-17 14:31 ` Mel Gorman
2020-06-20 0:57 ` Roman Gushchin
2020-06-18 1:29 ` Roman Gushchin
2020-06-18 8:43 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-06-18 9:31 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-06-19 1:30 ` Roman Gushchin
2020-06-19 8:32 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-06-19 1:27 ` Roman Gushchin
2020-06-19 9:39 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-06-19 18:47 ` Roman Gushchin
2020-06-18 9:27 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-06-18 20:43 ` Roman Gushchin
2020-06-21 22:57 ` Qian Cai
2020-06-21 23:34 ` Roman Gushchin
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2020-06-22 3:07 ` Roman Gushchin
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