From: "H.J. Lu" <hjl.tools@gmail.com>
To: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
Carlos O'Donell <carlos@redhat.com>,
"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
linux-arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC, PATCHv2 29/29] mm, x86: introduce RLIMIT_VADDR
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 12:11:05 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMe9rOqRyL7eEmGSkXh9nbVPk_V8cKOuNbdwPA9Dcq=e07G7Ng@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170102083500.GA30735@node.shutemov.name>
On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 12:35 AM, Kirill A. Shutemov
<kirill@shutemov.name> wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 06:08:27PM -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>> On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 6:53 PM, Carlos O'Donell <carlos@redhat.com> wrote:
>> > On 12/26/2016 09:24 PM, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
>> >> On Mon, Dec 26, 2016 at 06:06:01PM -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>> >>> On Mon, Dec 26, 2016 at 5:54 PM, Kirill A. Shutemov
>> >>> <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com> wrote:
>> >>>> This patch introduces new rlimit resource to manage maximum virtual
>> >>>> address available to userspace to map.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On x86, 5-level paging enables 56-bit userspace virtual address space.
>> >>>> Not all user space is ready to handle wide addresses. It's known that
>> >>>> at least some JIT compilers use high bit in pointers to encode their
>> >>>> information. It collides with valid pointers with 5-level paging and
>> >>>> leads to crashes.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> The patch aims to address this compatibility issue.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> MM would use min(RLIMIT_VADDR, TASK_SIZE) as upper limit of virtual
>> >>>> address available to map by userspace.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> The default hard limit will be RLIM_INFINITY, which basically means that
>> >>>> TASK_SIZE limits available address space.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> The soft limit will also be RLIM_INFINITY everywhere, but the machine
>> >>>> with 5-level paging enabled. In this case, soft limit would be
>> >>>> (1UL << 47) - PAGE_SIZE. It’s current x86-64 TASK_SIZE_MAX with 4-level
>> >>>> paging which known to be safe
>> >>>>
>> >>>> New rlimit resource would follow usual semantics with regards to
>> >>>> inheritance: preserved on fork(2) and exec(2). This has potential to
>> >>>> break application if limits set too wide or too narrow, but this is not
>> >>>> uncommon for other resources (consider RLIMIT_DATA or RLIMIT_AS).
>> >>>>
>> >>>> As with other resources you can set the limit lower than current usage.
>> >>>> It would affect only future virtual address space allocations.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Use-cases for new rlimit:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> - Bumping the soft limit to RLIM_INFINITY, allows current process all
>> >>>> its children to use addresses above 47-bits.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> - Bumping the soft limit to RLIM_INFINITY after fork(2), but before
>> >>>> exec(2) allows the child to use addresses above 47-bits.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> - Lowering the hard limit to 47-bits would prevent current process all
>> >>>> its children to use addresses above 47-bits, unless a process has
>> >>>> CAP_SYS_RESOURCES.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> - It’s also can be handy to lower hard or soft limit to arbitrary
>> >>>> address. User-mode emulation in QEMU may lower the limit to 32-bit
>> >>>> to emulate 32-bit machine on 64-bit host.
>> >>>
>> >>> I tend to think that this should be a personality or an ELF flag, not
>> >>> an rlimit.
>> >>
>> >> My plan was to implement ELF flag on top. Basically, ELF flag would mean
>> >> that we bump soft limit to hard limit on exec.
>> >
>> > Could you clarify what you mean by an "ELF flag?"
>>
>> Some way to mark a binary as supporting a larger address space. I
>> don't have a precise solution in mind, but an ELF note might be a good
>> way to go here.
>
> + H.J.
>
> There's discussion of proposal of "Program Properties"[1]. It seems fits
> the purpose.
>
> [1] https://sourceware.org/ml/gnu-gabi/2016-q4/msg00000.html
>
> --
> Kirill A. Shutemov
There is another proposal:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Toolchain/Watermark#Markup_for_ELF_objects
which covers much more than mine.
--
H.J.
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Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-12-27 1:53 [PATCHv2 00/29] 5-level paging Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-12-27 1:53 ` [PATCHv2 01/29] x86/cpufeature: Add 5-level paging detecton Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-12-27 1:53 ` [PATCHv2 02/29] asm-generic: introduce 5level-fixup.h Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-01-27 11:06 ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-01-27 11:30 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-12-27 1:53 ` [PATCHv2 03/29] asm-generic: introduce __ARCH_USE_5LEVEL_HACK Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-01-27 13:24 ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-01-27 13:55 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-12-27 1:53 ` [PATCHv2 04/29] arch, mm: convert all architectures to use 5level-fixup.h Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-12-27 1:53 ` [PATCHv2 05/29] asm-generic: introduce <asm-generic/pgtable-nop4d.h> Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-12-27 1:53 ` [PATCHv2 06/29] mm: convert generic code to 5-level paging Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-12-27 1:53 ` [PATCHv2 07/29] mm: introduce __p4d_alloc() Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-12-27 1:53 ` [PATCHv2 08/29] x86: basic changes into headers for 5-level paging Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-12-27 1:53 ` [PATCHv2 09/29] x86: trivial portion of 5-level paging conversion Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-12-27 1:53 ` [PATCHv2 10/29] x86/gup: add 5-level paging support Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-12-27 1:53 ` [PATCHv2 11/29] x86/ident_map: " Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-12-27 1:53 ` [PATCHv2 12/29] x86/mm: add support of p4d_t in vmalloc_fault() Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-12-27 1:53 ` [PATCHv2 13/29] x86/power: support p4d_t in hibernate code Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-12-27 1:53 ` [PATCHv2 14/29] x86/kexec: support p4d_t Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-12-27 1:53 ` [PATCHv2 15/29] x86: convert the rest of the code to " Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-12-27 1:54 ` [PATCHv2 16/29] x86: detect 5-level paging support Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-12-27 1:54 ` [PATCHv2 17/29] x86/asm: remove __VIRTUAL_MASK_SHIFT==47 assert Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-12-27 1:54 ` [PATCHv2 18/29] x86/mm: define virtual memory map for 5-level paging Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-12-27 1:54 ` [PATCHv2 19/29] x86/paravirt: make paravirt code support " Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-12-27 1:54 ` [PATCHv2 20/29] x86/mm: basic defines/helpers for CONFIG_X86_5LEVEL Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-12-27 1:54 ` [PATCHv2 21/29] x86/dump_pagetables: support 5-level paging Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-12-27 1:54 ` [PATCHv2 22/29] x86/mm: extend kasan to " Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-12-27 1:54 ` [PATCHv2 23/29] x86/espfix: " Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-12-27 1:54 ` [PATCHv2 24/29] x86/mm: add support of additional page table level during early boot Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-12-27 1:54 ` [PATCHv2 25/29] x86/mm: add sync_global_pgds() for configuration with 5-level paging Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-12-27 1:54 ` [PATCHv2 26/29] x86/mm: make kernel_physical_mapping_init() support " Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-12-27 1:54 ` [PATCHv2 27/29] x86/mm: add support for 5-level paging for KASLR Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-12-27 1:54 ` [PATCHv2 28/29] x86: enable 5-level paging support Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-12-27 1:54 ` [RFC, PATCHv2 29/29] mm, x86: introduce RLIMIT_VADDR Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-12-27 2:06 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-12-27 2:24 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-12-27 3:22 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-01-02 9:09 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-12-29 2:53 ` Carlos O'Donell
2016-12-31 2:08 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-01-02 8:35 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-01-13 20:11 ` H.J. Lu [this message]
2017-01-02 8:44 ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-01-03 6:08 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-01-03 13:18 ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-01-03 18:29 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-01-03 22:07 ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-01-03 22:09 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-01-04 13:55 ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-01-03 16:04 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-01-03 18:27 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-01-04 14:19 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-01-05 17:53 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-01-05 19:13 ` Dave Hansen
2017-01-05 19:29 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-01-05 19:39 ` Dave Hansen
2017-01-05 20:11 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-01-05 20:14 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-01-05 20:49 ` Dave Hansen
2017-01-05 21:27 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-01-05 23:17 ` Dave Hansen
2017-01-11 14:29 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-01-11 18:09 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-01-11 18:37 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-01-11 18:49 ` Dave Hansen
2017-01-11 19:20 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-01-11 19:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-01-11 21:46 ` Andi Kleen
2017-01-11 19:32 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-01-11 19:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-01-11 18:26 ` Dave Hansen
2017-01-05 16:57 ` [PATCHv2 00/29] 5-level paging Kirill A. Shutemov
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