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From: Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>
To: Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>
Cc: Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com>,
	 Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org,  Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	 "Naveen N. Rao" <naveen.n.rao@linux.ibm.com>,
	 Anil S Keshavamurthy <anil.s.keshavamurthy@intel.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	 Jessica Yu <jeyu@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 5/6] kprobes: Use text_alloc() and text_free()
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2020 09:13:21 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMj1kXFdzXFH8b8fu1oKNLk-khBzWVqnBuiu1GEnWSV13jcAHQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200729105054.06f74749eb933c08342e6dd6@kernel.org>

On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 at 04:51, Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 20:51:08 +0300
> Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 at 16:35, Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 13:56:43 +0300
> > > Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 at 11:17, Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org> wrote:
> > > > > > Masami or Peter should correct me if I am wrong, but it seems to me
> > > > > > that the way kprobes uses these pages does not require them to be in
> > > > > > relative branching range of the core kernel on any architecture, given
> > > > > > that they are populated with individual instruction opcodes that are
> > > > > > executed in single step mode, and relative branches are emulated (when
> > > > > > needed)
> > > > >
> > > > > Actually, x86 and arm has the "relative branching range" requirements
> > > > > for the jump optimized kprobes. For the other architectures, I think
> > > > > we don't need it. Only executable text buffer is needed.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for the explanation. Today, arm64 uses the definition below.
> > > >
> > > > void *alloc_insn_page(void)
> > > > {
> > > >   return __vmalloc_node_range(PAGE_SIZE, 1, VMALLOC_START, VMALLOC_END,
> > > >     GFP_KERNEL, PAGE_KERNEL_ROX, VM_FLUSH_RESET_PERMS,
> > > >     NUMA_NO_NODE, __builtin_return_address(0));
> > > > }
> > > >
> > > > Do you think we could use that as the generic implementation if we use
> > > > MODULES_START/_END as the allocation window?
> > >
> > > Yes, but for the generic implementation, we don't need to consider the
> > > relative branching range since we can override it for x86 and arm.
> > > (and that will be almost same as module_alloc() default code)
> >
> > Indeed. So having kprobes specific macros that default to
> > VMALLOC_START/END but can be overridden would be sufficient.
> >
> > > BTW, is PAGE_KERNEL_ROX flag available generically?
> > >
> >
> > Turns out that it is not :-(
>
> Hmm, in that case, we need to use PAGE_KERNEL_EXEC.
>
> In the result, may it be similar to this? :)
>
> void * __weak module_alloc(unsigned long size)
> {
>         return __vmalloc_node_range(size, 1, VMALLOC_START, VMALLOC_END,
>                         GFP_KERNEL, PAGE_KERNEL_EXEC, VM_FLUSH_RESET_PERMS,
>                         NUMA_NO_NODE, __builtin_return_address(0));
> }
>
> The major difference between module_alloc() and kprobe's alloc_page_insn()
> is the alloc_page_insn() makes the page ROX after allocating the pages *ONLY*
> on x86 and arm64.
>

Right.

> $ git grep -w alloc_insn_page -- arch
> arch/arm64/kernel/probes/kprobes.c:void *alloc_insn_page(void)
> arch/x86/kernel/kprobes/core.c:void *alloc_insn_page(void)
>
> However since the module_alloc() owns its arch-dependent implementations
> most of major architectures, if we implement independent text_alloc_kprobe(),
> we need to make deadcopies of module_alloc() for each architecture.
>

No, that is what we are trying to avoid.

> $ git grep 'module_alloc(unsigned' arch/
> arch/arm/kernel/module.c:void *module_alloc(unsigned long size)
> arch/arm64/kernel/module.c:void *module_alloc(unsigned long size)
> arch/mips/kernel/module.c:void *module_alloc(unsigned long size)
> arch/nds32/kernel/module.c:void *module_alloc(unsigned long size)
> arch/nios2/kernel/module.c:void *module_alloc(unsigned long size)
> arch/parisc/kernel/module.c:void *module_alloc(unsigned long size)
> arch/riscv/kernel/module.c:void *module_alloc(unsigned long size)
> arch/s390/kernel/module.c:void *module_alloc(unsigned long size)
> arch/sparc/kernel/module.c:void *module_alloc(unsigned long size)
> arch/unicore32/kernel/module.c:void *module_alloc(unsigned long size)
> arch/x86/kernel/module.c:void *module_alloc(unsigned long size)
>
> It seems that some constrains for module_alloc() exists for above
> architectures.
>
> Anyway, for kprobe's text_alloc() requirements are
> - It must be executable for the arch which uses a single-step out-of-line.
>   (and need to be registered to KASAN?)

No, kasan shadow is not needed here.

> - It must be ROX if implemented (currently only for x86 and arm64)

x86 does not actually define thr macro, but the result is the same.

> - It must be in the range of relative branching only for x86 and arm.
>

So in summary, the generic module_alloc() above can be reused for
kprobes on all arches except x86 and arm64, right? Then we can remove
the call to it, and drop the modules dependency.


  reply	other threads:[~2020-07-29  6:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-24  5:05 [PATCH v5 0/6] arch/x86: kprobes: Remove MODULES dependency Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-07-24  5:05 ` [PATCH v5 1/6] kprobes: Remove dependency to the module_mutex Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-07-24  9:13   ` Ingo Molnar
2020-07-25  2:36     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-07-24  9:17   ` Ingo Molnar
2020-07-25  3:01     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-07-25 10:21       ` Ingo Molnar
2020-07-28  7:34         ` Masami Hiramatsu
2020-08-17 21:22           ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-07-24 10:22   ` Mike Rapoport
2020-07-25  2:42     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-07-24 14:46   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2020-07-25  2:48     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-07-24  5:05 ` [PATCH v5 2/6] vmalloc: Add text_alloc() and text_free() Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-07-24 10:22   ` Mike Rapoport
2020-07-25  2:20     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-07-24  5:05 ` [PATCH v5 3/6] arch/x86: Implement " Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-07-24  9:22   ` Ingo Molnar
2020-07-25  2:03     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-07-24  5:05 ` [PATCH v5 4/6] arch/x86: kprobes: Use " Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-07-24  5:05 ` [PATCH v5 5/6] " Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-07-24  9:27   ` Ingo Molnar
2020-07-24 12:16     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-07-25  3:19       ` [PATCH v5 5/6] kprobes: Use text_alloc() and text_free()] Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-07-25  3:16     ` [PATCH v5 5/6] kprobes: Use text_alloc() and text_free() Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-07-26  8:14       ` Mike Rapoport
2020-07-26 16:06         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-07-28  8:17           ` Masami Hiramatsu
2020-07-28 10:56             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-07-28 13:35               ` Masami Hiramatsu
2020-07-28 17:51                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-07-29  1:50                   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2020-07-29  6:13                     ` Ard Biesheuvel [this message]
2020-07-30  1:09                       ` Masami Hiramatsu
2020-08-18  5:30         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-08-18 11:51           ` Mike Rapoport
2020-08-18 16:30             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-08-19  6:47               ` Mike Rapoport
2020-08-19 21:07                 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-07-24 10:27   ` Mike Rapoport
2020-07-24 14:57     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2020-07-24 23:38     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-07-24  5:05 ` [PATCH v5 6/6] kprobes: Remove CONFIG_MODULES dependency Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-07-24  7:01 ` [PATCH v5 0/6] arch/x86: kprobes: Remove MODULES dependency Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-07-24 10:26 ` Mike Rapoport

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