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From: Chris Down <chris@chrisdown.name>
To: Eiichi Tsukata <eiichi.tsukata@nutanix.com>
Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>,
	"corbet@lwn.net" <corbet@lwn.net>,
	"mcgrof@kernel.org" <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
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	"yzaikin@google.com" <yzaikin@google.com>,
	"akpm@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"linux-doc@vger.kernel.org" <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Felipe Franciosi <felipe@nutanix.com>,
	"shakeelb@google.com" <shakeelb@google.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] mm, oom: introduce vm.sacrifice_hugepage_on_oom
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2021 12:39:09 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YC5f7SalbXhemwV7@chrisdown.name> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <99FF105C-1AAB-40F3-9C13-7BDA23AD89D9@nutanix.com>

Eiichi Tsukata writes:
>>> But that comes with a challenge: despite listening on cgroup for
>>> pressure notifications (which happen from those runtime events we do
>>> not control),
>>
>> We do also have global pressure (PSI) counters. Have you tried to look
>> into those and try to back off even when the situation becomes critical?
>
>Yes. PSI counters help us to some extent. But we've found that in some cases
>OOM can happen before we observe memory pressure if memory bloat occurred
>rapidly. The proposed failsafe mechanism can cover even such a situation.
>Also, as I mentioned in commit message, oom notifiers doesn't work if OOM
>is triggered by memory allocation for kernel.

Hmm, do you have free swap? Without it, we can trivially go from fine to OOM in 
a totally binary fashion. As long as there's some swap space available, there 
should be a clear period where pressure is rising prior to OOM.


  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-18 12:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-16  3:07 [RFC PATCH] mm, oom: introduce vm.sacrifice_hugepage_on_oom Eiichi Tsukata
2021-02-16  8:12 ` Michal Hocko
2021-02-16 21:53   ` David Rientjes
2021-02-17  7:54     ` Michal Hocko
2021-02-17 14:59     ` Shakeel Butt
2021-02-16 22:30   ` Mike Kravetz
2021-02-17  7:57     ` Michal Hocko
2021-02-17 10:42       ` Eiichi Tsukata
2021-02-17 12:31         ` Michal Hocko
2021-02-17 12:40           ` Michal Hocko
2021-02-18 12:22           ` Eiichi Tsukata
2021-02-18 12:39             ` Chris Down [this message]
2021-02-16 13:38 ` Chris Down
2021-02-17  9:09 ` David Hildenbrand

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