From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.8 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40700C433E0 for ; Mon, 22 Feb 2021 12:46:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kanga.kvack.org (kanga.kvack.org [205.233.56.17]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B44F064DF0 for ; Mon, 22 Feb 2021 12:46:40 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org B44F064DF0 Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=quarantine dis=none) header.from=suse.com Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=owner-linux-mm@kvack.org Received: by kanga.kvack.org (Postfix) id 26FE76B007D; Mon, 22 Feb 2021 07:46:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by kanga.kvack.org (Postfix, from userid 40) id 1F8736B007E; Mon, 22 Feb 2021 07:46:40 -0500 (EST) X-Delivered-To: int-list-linux-mm@kvack.org Received: by kanga.kvack.org (Postfix, from userid 63042) id 0BFAB8D0005; Mon, 22 Feb 2021 07:46:40 -0500 (EST) X-Delivered-To: linux-mm@kvack.org Received: from forelay.hostedemail.com (smtprelay0181.hostedemail.com [216.40.44.181]) by kanga.kvack.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E739E6B007D for ; Mon, 22 Feb 2021 07:46:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtpin15.hostedemail.com (10.5.19.251.rfc1918.com [10.5.19.251]) by forelay02.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8D518128 for ; Mon, 22 Feb 2021 12:46:39 +0000 (UTC) X-FDA: 77845877718.15.2D07483 Received: from mx2.suse.de (mx2.suse.de [195.135.220.15]) by imf21.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62C57E0011D9 for ; Mon, 22 Feb 2021 12:46:36 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at test-mx.suse.de DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=suse.com; s=susede1; t=1613997998; h=from:from:reply-to:date:date:message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc: mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=pSoQkwih8ksFFRXBnQ2uGYGVyAUL6YhMR0u+WuJWwqg=; b=XqMjnMB7820VC1A4vgfme9m2Hi31qX2p6kBGzOO6c/eIdI+pfkp1/RDkL+7WgOIBXaVB6M HOScBSKlqCkR9P1qVM1CvzxtuNwVi1OLvpl4xp6M9Y4rZW9Hntb22y0lB+L15WhsWbIx28 j7Yi6MpOwdivG/IyiOW/jl6Vfd2KeY4= Received: from relay2.suse.de (unknown [195.135.221.27]) by mx2.suse.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0C5AAD2B; Mon, 22 Feb 2021 12:46:37 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2021 13:46:35 +0100 From: Michal Hocko To: David Hildenbrand Cc: Peter Xu , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrew Morton , Arnd Bergmann , Oscar Salvador , Matthew Wilcox , Andrea Arcangeli , Minchan Kim , Jann Horn , Jason Gunthorpe , Dave Hansen , Hugh Dickins , Rik van Riel , "Michael S . Tsirkin" , "Kirill A . Shutemov" , Vlastimil Babka , Richard Henderson , Ivan Kokshaysky , Matt Turner , Thomas Bogendoerfer , "James E.J. Bottomley" , Helge Deller , Chris Zankel , Max Filippov , linux-alpha@vger.kernel.org, linux-mips@vger.kernel.org, linux-parisc@vger.kernel.org, linux-xtensa@linux-xtensa.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] mm/madvise: introduce MADV_POPULATE to prefault/prealloc memory Message-ID: References: <20210217154844.12392-1-david@redhat.com> <20210218225904.GB6669@xz-x1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Stat-Signature: uyy9hefo717qgaqebeczj1b7t9941mhm X-Rspamd-Server: rspam02 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 62C57E0011D9 Received-SPF: none (suse.com>: No applicable sender policy available) receiver=imf21; identity=mailfrom; envelope-from=""; helo=mx2.suse.de; client-ip=195.135.220.15 X-HE-DKIM-Result: pass/pass X-HE-Tag: 1613997996-806675 X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.2.4 Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org Precedence: bulk X-Loop: owner-majordomo@kvack.org List-ID: I am slowly catching up with this thread. On Fri 19-02-21 09:20:16, David Hildenbrand wrote: [...] > So if we have zero, we write zero. We'll COW pages, triggering a write fault > - and that's the only good thing about it. For example, similar to > MADV_POPULATE, nothing stops KSM from merging anonymous pages again. So for > anonymous memory the actual write is not helpful at all. Similarly for > hugetlbfs, the actual write is not necessary - but there is no other way to > really achieve the goal. I really do not see why you care about KSM so much. Isn't KSM an explicit opt-in with a fine grained interface to control which memory to KSM or not? -- Michal Hocko SUSE Labs