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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
Cc: Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>,
	Muchun Song <songmuchun@bytedance.com>,
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	Bodeddula Balasubramaniam <bodeddub@amazon.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v18 4/9] mm: hugetlb: alloc the vmemmap pages associated with each HugeTLB page
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2021 09:40:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YEnXllhPEQhT0CRt@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210310232851.GZ2696@paulmck-ThinkPad-P72>

On Wed 10-03-21 15:28:51, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 02:10:12PM -0800, Mike Kravetz wrote:
> > On 3/10/21 1:49 PM, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 10:11:22PM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > >> On Wed 10-03-21 10:56:08, Mike Kravetz wrote:
> > >>> On 3/10/21 7:19 AM, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > >>>> On Mon 08-03-21 18:28:02, Muchun Song wrote:
> > >>>> [...]
> > >>>>> @@ -1447,7 +1486,7 @@ void free_huge_page(struct page *page)
> > >>>>>  	/*
> > >>>>>  	 * Defer freeing if in non-task context to avoid hugetlb_lock deadlock.
> > >>>>>  	 */
> > >>>>> -	if (!in_task()) {
> > >>>>> +	if (in_atomic()) {
> > >>>>
> > >>>> As I've said elsewhere in_atomic doesn't work for CONFIG_PREEMPT_COUNT=n.
> > >>>> We need this change for other reasons and so it would be better to pull
> > >>>> it out into a separate patch which also makes HUGETLB depend on
> > >>>> PREEMPT_COUNT.
> > >>>
> > >>> Yes, the issue of calling put_page for hugetlb pages from any context
> > >>> still needs work.  IMO, that is outside the scope of this series.  We
> > >>> already have code in this path which blocks/sleeps.
> > >>>
> > >>> Making HUGETLB depend on PREEMPT_COUNT is too restrictive.  IIUC,
> > >>> PREEMPT_COUNT will only be enabled if we enable:
> > >>> PREEMPT "Preemptible Kernel (Low-Latency Desktop)"
> > >>> PREEMPT_RT "Fully Preemptible Kernel (Real-Time)"
> > >>> or, other 'debug' options.  These are not enabled in 'more common'
> > >>> kernels.  Of course, we do not want to disable HUGETLB in common
> > >>> configurations.
> > >>
> > >> I haven't tried that but PREEMPT_COUNT should be selectable even without
> > >> any change to the preemption model (e.g. !PREEMPT).
> > > 
> > > It works reliably for me, for example as in the diff below.  So,
> > > as Michal says, you should be able to add "select PREEMPT_COUNT" to
> > > whatever Kconfig option you need to.
> > > 
> > 
> > Thanks Paul.
> > 
> > I may have been misreading Michal's suggestion of "make HUGETLB depend on
> > PREEMPT_COUNT".  We could "select PREEMPT_COUNT" if HUGETLB is enabled.
> > However, since HUGETLB is enabled in most configs, then this would
> > result in PREEMPT_COUNT also being enabled in most configs.  I honestly
> > do not know how much this will cost us?  I assume that if it was free or
> > really cheap it would already be always on?
> 
> There are a -lot- of configs out there, so are you sure that HUGETLB is
> really enabled in most of them?  ;-)

It certainly is enabled for all distribution kernels and many are
!PREEMPT so I believe this is what Mike was concerned about.

> More seriously, I was going by earlier emails in this and related threads
> plus Michal's "PREEMPT_COUNT should be selectable".  But there are other
> situations that would like PREEMPT_COUNT.  And to your point, some who
> would rather PREEMPT_COUNT not be universally enabled.  I haven't seen
> any performance or kernel-size numbers from any of them, however.

Yeah per cpu preempt counting shouldn't be noticeable but I have to
confess I haven't benchmarked it.
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs


  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-11  8:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-08 10:27 [PATCH v18 0/9] Free some vmemmap pages of HugeTLB page Muchun Song
2021-03-08 10:27 ` [PATCH v18 1/9] mm: memory_hotplug: factor out bootmem core functions to bootmem_info.c Muchun Song
2021-03-10 14:14   ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-11  2:58     ` [External] " Muchun Song
2021-03-11  8:45       ` Muchun Song
2021-03-11  8:53         ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-11  9:05           ` Muchun Song
2021-03-08 10:28 ` [PATCH v18 2/9] mm: hugetlb: introduce a new config HUGETLB_PAGE_FREE_VMEMMAP Muchun Song
2021-03-08 10:28 ` [PATCH v18 3/9] mm: hugetlb: free the vmemmap pages associated with each HugeTLB page Muchun Song
2021-03-10 14:32   ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-11  3:35     ` [External] " Muchun Song
2021-03-08 10:28 ` [PATCH v18 4/9] mm: hugetlb: alloc " Muchun Song
2021-03-10 14:21   ` Oscar Salvador
2021-03-11  4:13     ` [External] " Muchun Song
2021-03-10 15:19   ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-10 18:56     ` Mike Kravetz
2021-03-10 21:11       ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-10 21:49         ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-03-10 22:10           ` Mike Kravetz
2021-03-10 23:28             ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-03-11  8:40               ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2021-03-11 12:17                 ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-11 17:59                   ` Mike Kravetz
2021-03-11 22:53                     ` Mike Kravetz
2021-03-12  8:15                       ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-12 17:50                         ` Mike Kravetz
2021-03-11  4:26     ` [External] " Muchun Song
2021-03-11  8:46       ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-11  8:49         ` Muchun Song
2021-03-08 10:28 ` [PATCH v18 5/9] mm: hugetlb: set the PageHWPoison to the raw error page Muchun Song
2021-03-10 15:27   ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-11  6:34     ` [External] " Muchun Song
2021-03-11  8:50       ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-11  9:13         ` Muchun Song
2021-03-08 10:28 ` [PATCH v18 6/9] mm: hugetlb: add a kernel parameter hugetlb_free_vmemmap Muchun Song
2021-03-10 15:37   ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-10 17:15     ` Randy Dunlap
2021-03-11  6:36       ` [External] " Muchun Song
2021-03-11  6:36     ` Muchun Song
2021-03-08 10:28 ` [PATCH v18 7/9] mm: hugetlb: introduce nr_free_vmemmap_pages in the struct hstate Muchun Song
2021-03-08 10:28 ` [PATCH v18 8/9] mm: hugetlb: gather discrete indexes of tail page Muchun Song
2021-03-10 15:39   ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-08 10:28 ` [PATCH v18 9/9] mm: hugetlb: optimize the code with the help of the compiler Muchun Song
2021-03-10 15:41   ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-11  7:33     ` [External] " Muchun Song
2021-03-11  8:55       ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-11  9:08         ` Muchun Song
2021-03-11  9:39           ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-11 10:00             ` Muchun Song
2021-03-11 12:16               ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-11 13:00                 ` Muchun Song
2021-03-11 13:45                 ` Oscar Salvador

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