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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Aili Yao <yaoaili@kingsoft.com>
Cc: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	"Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)" <willy@infradead.org>,
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	Alex Shi <alex.shi@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Steven Price <steven.price@arm.com>,
	Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>,
	Jiri Bohac <jbohac@suse.cz>,
	"K. Y. Srinivasan" <kys@microsoft.com>,
	Haiyang Zhang <haiyangz@microsoft.com>,
	Stephen Hemminger <sthemmin@microsoft.com>,
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	Naoya Horiguchi <naoya.horiguchi@nec.com>,
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	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	yaoaili126@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 3/7] mm: rename and move page_is_poisoned()
Date: Thu, 6 May 2021 09:06:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YJOVZlFGcSG+mmIk@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210506085611.1ec21588@alex-virtual-machine>

On Thu 06-05-21 08:56:11, Aili Yao wrote:
> On Wed, 5 May 2021 15:27:39 +0200
> Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed 05-05-21 15:17:53, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> > > On 05.05.21 15:13, Michal Hocko wrote:  
> > > > On Thu 29-04-21 14:25:15, David Hildenbrand wrote:  
> > > > > Commit d3378e86d182 ("mm/gup: check page posion status for coredump.")
> > > > > introduced page_is_poisoned(), however, v5 [1] of the patch used
> > > > > "page_is_hwpoison()" and something went wrong while upstreaming. Rename the
> > > > > function and move it to page-flags.h, from where it can be used in other
> > > > > -- kcore -- context.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Move the comment to the place where it belongs and simplify.
> > > > > 
> > > > > [1] https://lkml.kernel.org/r/20210322193318.377c9ce9@alex-virtual-machine
> > > > > 
> > > > > Signed-off-by: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>  
> > > > 
> > > > I do agree that being explicit about hwpoison is much better. Poisoned
> > > > page can be also an unitialized one and I believe this is the reason why
> > > > you are bringing that up.  
> > > 
> > > I'm bringing it up because I want to reuse that function as state above :)
> > >   
> > > > 
> > > > But you've made me look at d3378e86d182 and I am wondering whether this
> > > > is really a valid patch. First of all it can leak a reference count
> > > > AFAICS. Moreover it doesn't really fix anything because the page can be
> > > > marked hwpoison right after the check is done. I do not think the race
> > > > is feasible to be closed. So shouldn't we rather revert it?  
> > > 
> > > I am not sure if we really care about races here that much here? I mean,
> > > essentially we are racing with HW breaking asynchronously. Just because we
> > > would be synchronizing with SetPageHWPoison() wouldn't mean we can stop HW
> > > from breaking.  
> > 
> > Right
> > 
> > > Long story short, this should be good enough for the cases we actually can
> > > handle? What am I missing?  
> > 
> > I am not sure I follow. My point is that I fail to see any added value
> > of the check as it doesn't prevent the race (it fundamentally cannot as
> > the page can be poisoned at any time) but the failure path doesn't
> > put_page which is incorrect even for hwpoison pages.
> 
> Sorry, I have something to say:
> 
> I have noticed the ref count leak in the previous topic ,but  I don't think
> it's a really matter. For memory recovery case for user pages, we will keep one
> reference to the poison page so the error page will not be freed to buddy allocator.
> which can be checked in memory_faulure() function.

So what would happen if those pages are hwpoisoned from userspace rather
than by HW. And repeatedly so?
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs


  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-06  7:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-29 12:25 [PATCH v1 0/7] fs/proc/kcore: don't read offline sections, logically offline pages and hwpoisoned pages David Hildenbrand
2021-04-29 12:25 ` [PATCH v1 1/7] fs/proc/kcore: drop KCORE_REMAP and KCORE_OTHER David Hildenbrand
2021-05-02  6:31   ` Mike Rapoport
2021-04-29 12:25 ` [PATCH v1 2/7] fs/proc/kcore: pfn_is_ram check only applies to KCORE_RAM David Hildenbrand
2021-05-02  6:31   ` Mike Rapoport
2021-04-29 12:25 ` [PATCH v1 3/7] mm: rename and move page_is_poisoned() David Hildenbrand
2021-05-02  6:32   ` Mike Rapoport
2021-05-05 13:13   ` Michal Hocko
2021-05-05 13:17     ` David Hildenbrand
2021-05-05 13:27       ` Michal Hocko
2021-05-05 13:39         ` David Hildenbrand
2021-05-05 13:45           ` Michal Hocko
2021-05-06  1:08             ` Aili Yao
2021-05-06  0:56         ` Aili Yao
2021-05-06  7:06           ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2021-05-06  7:28             ` Aili Yao
2021-05-06  7:55               ` Michal Hocko
2021-05-06  8:52                 ` Aili Yao
2021-04-29 12:25 ` [PATCH v1 4/7] fs/proc/kcore: don't read offline sections, logically offline pages and hwpoisoned pages David Hildenbrand
2021-05-02  6:32   ` Mike Rapoport
2021-04-29 12:25 ` [PATCH v1 5/7] mm: introduce page_offline_(begin|end|freeze|unfreeze) to synchronize setting PageOffline() David Hildenbrand
2021-05-02  6:33   ` Mike Rapoport
2021-05-03  8:11     ` David Hildenbrand
2021-05-05 13:24   ` Michal Hocko
2021-05-05 15:10     ` David Hildenbrand
2021-05-05 17:41       ` Mike Rapoport
2021-04-29 12:25 ` [PATCH v1 6/7] virtio-mem: use page_offline_(start|end) when " David Hildenbrand
2021-05-02  6:33   ` Mike Rapoport
2021-05-03  8:16     ` David Hildenbrand
2021-05-03  8:23   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-04-29 12:25 ` [PATCH v1 7/7] fs/proc/kcore: use page_offline_(freeze|unfreeze) David Hildenbrand
2021-05-02  6:34   ` Mike Rapoport
2021-05-03  8:28     ` David Hildenbrand
2021-05-03  9:28       ` Mike Rapoport
2021-05-03 10:13         ` David Hildenbrand
2021-05-03 11:33           ` Mike Rapoport
2021-05-03 11:35             ` David Hildenbrand

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