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From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Yin Fengwei <fengwei.yin@intel.com>, Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Anshuman Khandual <anshuman.khandual@arm.com>,
	Yang Shi <shy828301@gmail.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/5] variable-order, large folios for anonymous memory
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2023 14:12:01 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZKgPIXSrxqymWrsv@casper.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d9cb4563-c622-9660-287b-a2f35121aec7@redhat.com>

On Fri, Jul 07, 2023 at 01:40:53PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 06.07.23 10:02, Ryan Roberts wrote:
> But can you comment on the page migration part (IOW did you try it already)?
> 
> For example, memory hotunplug, CMA, MCE handling, compaction all rely on
> page migration of something that was allocated using GFP_MOVABLE to actually
> work.
> 
> Compaction seems to skip any higher-order folios, but the question is if the
> udnerlying migration itself works.
> 
> If it already works: great! If not, this really has to be tackled early,
> because otherwise we'll be breaking the GFP_MOVABLE semantics.

I have looked at this a bit.  _Migration_ should be fine.  _Compaction_
is not.

If you look at a function like folio_migrate_mapping(), it all seems
appropriately folio-ised.  There might be something in there that is
slightly wrong, but that would just be a bug to fix, not a huge
architectural problem.

The problem comes in the callers of migrate_pages().  They pass a
new_folio_t callback.  alloc_migration_target() is the usual one passed
and as far as I can tell is fine.  I've seen no problems reported with it.

compaction_alloc() is a disaster, and I don't know how to fix it.
The compaction code has its own allocator which is populated with order-0
folios.  How it populates that freelist is awful ... see split_map_pages()

> Is swapping working as expected? zswap?

Suboptimally.  Swap will split folios in order to swap them.  Somebody
needs to fix that, but it should work.


  reply	other threads:[~2023-07-07 13:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-03 13:53 [PATCH v2 0/5] variable-order, large folios for anonymous memory Ryan Roberts
2023-07-03 13:53 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] mm: Non-pmd-mappable, large folios for folio_add_new_anon_rmap() Ryan Roberts
2023-07-03 19:05   ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-04  2:13     ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-07-04 11:19       ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-04  2:14   ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-07-03 13:53 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] mm: Allow deferred splitting of arbitrary large anon folios Ryan Roberts
2023-07-07  8:21   ` Huang, Ying
2023-07-07  9:42     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-10  5:37       ` Huang, Ying
2023-07-10  8:29         ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-10  9:01           ` Huang, Ying
2023-07-10  9:39             ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-11  1:56               ` Huang, Ying
2023-07-03 13:53 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] mm: Default implementation of arch_wants_pte_order() Ryan Roberts
2023-07-03 19:50   ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-04 13:20     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-05  2:07       ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-05  9:11         ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-05 17:24           ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-05 18:01             ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-06 19:33         ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-07-07 10:00           ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-04  2:22   ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-07-04  3:02     ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-04  3:59       ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-04  5:22         ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-07-04  5:42           ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-04 12:36         ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-04 13:23           ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-05  1:40             ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-05  1:23           ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-05  2:18             ` Yin Fengwei
2023-07-03 13:53 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] mm: FLEXIBLE_THP for improved performance Ryan Roberts
2023-07-03 15:51   ` kernel test robot
2023-07-03 16:01   ` kernel test robot
2023-07-04  1:35   ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-04 14:08     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-04 23:47       ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-04  3:45   ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-07-04 14:20     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-04 23:35       ` Yin Fengwei
2023-07-04 23:57       ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-07-05  9:54         ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-05 12:08           ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-07-07  8:01   ` Huang, Ying
2023-07-07  9:52     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-07 11:29       ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-07 13:57         ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-07-07 14:07           ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-07 15:13             ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-07 16:06               ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-07 16:22                 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-07 19:06                   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-10  8:41                     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-10  3:03               ` Huang, Ying
2023-07-10  8:55                 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-10  9:18                   ` Huang, Ying
2023-07-10  9:25                     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-11  0:48                       ` Huang, Ying
2023-07-10  2:49           ` Huang, Ying
2023-07-03 13:53 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] arm64: mm: Override arch_wants_pte_order() Ryan Roberts
2023-07-03 20:02   ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-04  2:18 ` [PATCH v2 0/5] variable-order, large folios for anonymous memory Yu Zhao
2023-07-04  6:22   ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-07-04  7:11     ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-04 15:36       ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-04 23:52         ` Yin Fengwei
2023-07-05  0:21           ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-05 10:16             ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-05 19:00               ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-05 19:38 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-06  8:02   ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-07 11:40     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-07 13:12       ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2023-07-07 13:24         ` David Hildenbrand
2023-07-10 10:07           ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-10 16:57             ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-07-10 16:53           ` Zi Yan
2023-07-19 15:49             ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-19 16:05               ` Zi Yan
2023-07-19 18:37                 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-07-11 21:11         ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-07-11 21:59           ` Matthew Wilcox

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