From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>, linux-mm@kvack.org
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
linux-api@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/9] mm, page_alloc: rip out ZONELIST_ORDER_ZONE
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2017 11:33:49 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <a4490c3e-9f7b-72b2-dfa3-80c054df6600@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170714080006.7250-2-mhocko@kernel.org>
On 07/14/2017 09:59 AM, Michal Hocko wrote:
> From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
>
> Supporting zone ordered zonelists costs us just a lot of code while
> the usefulness is arguable if existent at all. Mel has already made
> node ordering default on 64b systems. 32b systems are still using
> ZONELIST_ORDER_ZONE because it is considered better to fallback to
> a different NUMA node rather than consume precious lowmem zones.
>
> This argument is, however, weaken by the fact that the memory reclaim
> has been reworked to be node rather than zone oriented. This means
> that lowmem requests have to skip over all highmem pages on LRUs already
> and so zone ordering doesn't save the reclaim time much. So the only
> advantage of the zone ordering is under a light memory pressure when
> highmem requests do not ever hit into lowmem zones and the lowmem
> pressure doesn't need to reclaim.
>
> Considering that 32b NUMA systems are rather suboptimal already and
> it is generally advisable to use 64b kernel on such a HW I believe we
> should rather care about the code maintainability and just get rid of
> ZONELIST_ORDER_ZONE altogether. Keep systcl in place and warn if
> somebody tries to set zone ordering either from kernel command line
> or the sysctl.
>
> Cc: <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>
> Signed-off-by: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
Found some leftovers to cleanup:
include/linux/mmzone.h:
extern char numa_zonelist_order[];
#define NUMA_ZONELIST_ORDER_LEN 16 /* string buffer size */
Also update docs?
Documentation/sysctl/vm.txt:zone. Specify "[Zz]one" for zone order.
Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt:
numa_zonelist_order= [KNL, BOOT] Select zonelist order for NUMA.
Documentation/vm/numa:a default zonelist order based on the sizes of the
various zone types relative
Documentation/vm/numa:default zonelist order may be overridden using the
numa_zonelist_order kernel
Otherwise,
Acked-by: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-07-19 9:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-07-14 7:59 [PATCH 0/9] cleanup zonelists initialization Michal Hocko
2017-07-14 7:59 ` [PATCH 1/9] mm, page_alloc: rip out ZONELIST_ORDER_ZONE Michal Hocko
2017-07-14 9:36 ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-14 10:47 ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-14 11:16 ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-14 11:38 ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-14 12:56 ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-14 13:01 ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-14 13:08 ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-19 9:33 ` Vlastimil Babka [this message]
2017-07-19 13:44 ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-14 7:59 ` [PATCH 2/9] mm, page_alloc: remove boot pageset initialization from memory hotplug Michal Hocko
2017-07-14 9:39 ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-19 13:15 ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-07-14 8:00 ` [PATCH 3/9] mm, page_alloc: do not set_cpu_numa_mem on empty nodes initialization Michal Hocko
2017-07-14 9:48 ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-14 10:50 ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-14 12:32 ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-14 12:39 ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-14 12:56 ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-19 13:19 ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-07-14 8:00 ` [PATCH 4/9] mm, memory_hotplug: drop zone from build_all_zonelists Michal Hocko
2017-07-19 13:33 ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-07-20 8:15 ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-14 8:00 ` [PATCH 5/9] mm, memory_hotplug: remove explicit build_all_zonelists from try_online_node Michal Hocko
2017-07-14 12:14 ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-20 6:13 ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-07-14 8:00 ` [PATCH 6/9] mm, page_alloc: simplify zonelist initialization Michal Hocko
2017-07-14 9:55 ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-14 10:51 ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-14 12:46 ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-14 13:02 ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-14 14:18 ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-17 6:06 ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-17 8:07 ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-17 8:19 ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-17 8:58 ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-17 9:15 ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-20 6:55 ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-07-20 7:19 ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-14 8:00 ` [PATCH 7/9] mm, page_alloc: remove stop_machine from build_all_zonelists Michal Hocko
2017-07-14 9:59 ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-14 11:00 ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-14 12:47 ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-14 11:29 ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-07-14 11:43 ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-14 11:45 ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-20 6:16 ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-07-20 7:24 ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-07-20 9:21 ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-14 8:00 ` [PATCH 8/9] mm, memory_hotplug: get rid of zonelists_mutex Michal Hocko
2017-07-14 8:00 ` [PATCH 9/9] mm, sparse, page_ext: drop ugly N_HIGH_MEMORY branches for allocations Michal Hocko
2017-07-20 8:04 ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-07-21 14:39 [PATCH -v1 0/9] cleanup zonelists initialization Michal Hocko
2017-07-21 14:39 ` [PATCH 1/9] mm, page_alloc: rip out ZONELIST_ORDER_ZONE Michal Hocko
2017-07-21 14:45 ` Michal Hocko
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