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From: Gerhard Wiesinger <lists@wiesinger.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>, lkml@pengaru.com
Cc: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: Still OOM problems with 4.9er/4.10er kernels
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2017 17:37:48 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a65e4b73-5c97-d915-c79e-7df0771db823@wiesinger.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170316093931.GH30501@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On 16.03.2017 10:39, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Thu 16-03-17 02:23:18, lkml@pengaru.com wrote:
>> On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 10:08:44AM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
>>> On Thu 16-03-17 01:47:33, lkml@pengaru.com wrote:
>>> [...]
>>>> While on the topic of understanding allocation stalls, Philip Freeman recently
>>>> mailed linux-kernel with a similar report, and in his case there are plenty of
>>>> page cache pages.  It was also a GFP_HIGHUSER_MOVABLE 0-order allocation.
>>> care to point me to the report?
>> http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1703.1/06360.html
> Thanks. It is gone from my lkml mailbox. Could you CC me (and linux-mm) please?
>   
>>>   
>>>> I'm no MM expert, but it appears a bit broken for such a low-order allocation
>>>> to stall on the order of 10 seconds when there's plenty of reclaimable pages,
>>>> in addition to mostly unused and abundant swap space on SSD.
>>> yes this might indeed signal a problem.
>> Well maybe I missed something obvious that a better informed eye will catch.
> Nothing really obvious. There is indeed a lot of anonymous memory to
> swap out. Almost no pages on file LRU lists (active_file:759
> inactive_file:749) but 158783 total pagecache pages so we have to have a
> lot of pages in the swap cache. I would probably have to see more data
> to make a full picture.
>

Why does the kernel prefer to swapin/out and not use

a.) the free memory?

b.) the buffer/cache?

There is ~100M memory available but kernel swaps all the time ...

Any ideas?

Kernel: 4.9.14-200.fc25.x86_64

top - 17:33:43 up 28 min,  3 users,  load average: 3.58, 1.67, 0.89
Tasks: 145 total,   4 running, 141 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
%Cpu(s): 19.1 us, 56.2 sy,  0.0 ni,  4.3 id, 13.4 wa, 2.0 hi,  0.3 si,  
4.7 st
KiB Mem :   230076 total,    61508 free,   123472 used,    45096 buff/cache

procs -----------memory---------- ---swap-- -----io---- -system-- 
------cpu-----
  r  b   swpd   free   buff  cache   si   so    bi    bo in   cs us sy 
id wa st
  3  5 303916  60372    328  43864 27828  200 41420   236 6984 11138 11 
47  6 23 14
  5  4 292852  52904    756  58584 19600  448 48780   540 8088 10528 18 
61  1  7 13
  3  3 288792  49052   1152  65924 4856  576  9824  1100 4324 5720  7 
18  2 64  8
  2  2 283676  54160    716  67604 6332  344 31740   964 3879 5055 12 34 
10 37  7
  3  3 286852  66712    216  53136 28064 4832 56532  4920 9175 12625 10 
55 12 14 10
  2  0 299680  62428    196  53316 36312 13164 54728 13212 16820 25283  
7 56 18 12  7
  1  1 300756  63220    624  58160 17944 1260 24528  1304 5804 9302  3 
22 38 34  3

Thnx.


Ciao,

Gerhard

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-03-17 16:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <aa4a3217-f94c-0477-b573-796c84255d1e@wiesinger.com>
     [not found] ` <c4ddfc91-7c84-19ed-b69a-18403e7590f9@wiesinger.com>
2016-12-09  7:06   ` Still OOM problems with 4.9er kernels Gerhard Wiesinger
2016-12-09 13:40     ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-09 15:52       ` Gerhard Wiesinger
2016-12-09 15:58         ` Gerhard Wiesinger
2016-12-09 16:09         ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-09 16:58           ` Gerhard Wiesinger
2016-12-09 17:30             ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-09 18:01               ` Gerhard Wiesinger
2016-12-09 21:42                 ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-12-10 13:50                   ` Gerhard Wiesinger
2016-12-12  8:24                     ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-23  2:55         ` Minchan Kim
2017-01-01 17:20           ` Gerhard Wiesinger
2017-01-04  8:40           ` Gerhard Wiesinger
2017-01-04  9:11             ` Michal Hocko
2017-02-26  8:40               ` Still OOM problems with 4.9er/4.10er kernels Gerhard Wiesinger
2017-02-27  8:27                 ` Michal Hocko
2017-02-28  6:06                   ` Gerhard Wiesinger
2017-02-28  8:14                     ` Michal Hocko
2017-02-27  9:02                 ` Minchan Kim
2017-02-27  9:44                   ` Michal Hocko
2017-02-28  5:17                     ` Minchan Kim
2017-02-28  8:12                       ` Michal Hocko
2017-03-02  7:17                         ` Minchan Kim
2017-03-16  6:38                           ` Gerhard Wiesinger
2017-03-16  8:27                             ` Michal Hocko
2017-03-16  8:47                               ` lkml
2017-03-16  9:08                                 ` Michal Hocko
2017-03-16  9:23                                   ` lkml
2017-03-16  9:39                                     ` Michal Hocko
2017-03-17 16:37                                       ` Gerhard Wiesinger [this message]
2017-03-17 17:13                                         ` Michal Hocko
2017-03-17 20:08                                           ` Gerhard Wiesinger
2017-03-19  8:17                                             ` Gerhard Wiesinger
2017-03-20  1:54                                               ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-03-19 15:18                                             ` Michal Hocko
2017-03-19 16:02                                               ` Gerhard Wiesinger
2017-03-20  3:05                                                 ` Mike Galbraith
2017-03-21  5:59                                                   ` Gerhard Wiesinger
2017-03-21  7:13                                                     ` Mike Galbraith
2017-03-23  7:16                                                       ` Gerhard Wiesinger
2017-03-23  8:38                                                         ` Mike Galbraith
2017-03-23 14:46                                                           ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-03-26  8:36                                                           ` Gerhard Wiesinger
2016-12-09 16:03       ` Still OOM problems with 4.9er kernels Gerhard Wiesinger

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