linux-mm.kvack.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	 Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,  linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [patch] mm, oom: prevent soft lockup on memcg oom for UP systems
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2020 12:45:40 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.21.2003111238570.171292@chino.kir.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200311082736.GA23944@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On Wed, 11 Mar 2020, Michal Hocko wrote:

> > > > When a process is oom killed as a result of memcg limits and the victim
> > > > is waiting to exit, nothing ends up actually yielding the processor back
> > > > to the victim on UP systems with preemption disabled.  Instead, the
> > > > charging process simply loops in memcg reclaim and eventually soft
> > > > lockups.
> > > > 
> > > > Memory cgroup out of memory: Killed process 808 (repro) total-vm:41944kB, anon-rss:35344kB, file-rss:504kB, shmem-rss:0kB, UID:0 pgtables:108kB oom_score_adj:0
> > > > watchdog: BUG: soft lockup - CPU#0 stuck for 23s! [repro:806]
> > > > CPU: 0 PID: 806 Comm: repro Not tainted 5.6.0-rc5+ #136
> > > > RIP: 0010:shrink_lruvec+0x4e9/0xa40
> > > > ...
> > > > Call Trace:
> > > >  shrink_node+0x40d/0x7d0
> > > >  do_try_to_free_pages+0x13f/0x470
> > > >  try_to_free_mem_cgroup_pages+0x16d/0x230
> > > >  try_charge+0x247/0xac0
> > > >  mem_cgroup_try_charge+0x10a/0x220
> > > >  mem_cgroup_try_charge_delay+0x1e/0x40
> > > >  handle_mm_fault+0xdf2/0x15f0
> > > >  do_user_addr_fault+0x21f/0x420
> > > >  page_fault+0x2f/0x40
> > > > 
> > > > Make sure that something ends up actually yielding the processor back to
> > > > the victim to allow for memory freeing.  Most appropriate place appears to
> > > > be shrink_node_memcgs() where the iteration of all decendant memcgs could
> > > > be particularly lengthy.
> > > 
> > > There is a cond_resched in shrink_lruvec and another one in
> > > shrink_page_list. Why doesn't any of them hit? Is it because there are
> > > no pages on the LRU list? Because rss data suggests there should be
> > > enough pages to go that path. Or maybe it is shrink_slab path that takes
> > > too long?
> > > 
> > 
> > I think it can be a number of cases, most notably mem_cgroup_protected() 
> > checks which is why the cond_resched() is added above it.  Rather than add 
> > cond_resched() only for MEMCG_PROT_MIN and for certain MEMCG_PROT_LOW, the 
> > cond_resched() is added above the switch clause because the iteration 
> > itself may be potentially very lengthy.
> 
> Was any of the above the case for your soft lockup case? How have you
> managed to trigger it? As I've said I am not against the patch but I
> would really like to see an actual explanation what happened rather than
> speculations of what might have happened. If for nothing else then for
> the future reference.
> 

Yes, this is how it was triggered in my own testing.

> If this is really about all the hierarchy being MEMCG_PROT_MIN protected
> and that results in a very expensive and pointless reclaim walk that can
> trigger soft lockup then it should be explicitly mentioned in the
> changelog.

I think the changelog clearly states that we need to guarantee that a 
reclaimer will yield the processor back to allow a victim to exit.  This 
is where we make the guarantee.  If it helps for the specific reason it 
triggered in my testing, we could add:

"For example, mem_cgroup_protected() can prohibit reclaim and thus any 
yielding in page reclaim would not address the issue."


  reply	other threads:[~2020-03-11 19:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-10 21:39 [patch] mm, oom: prevent soft lockup on memcg oom for UP systems David Rientjes
2020-03-10 22:05 ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-03-10 22:55   ` David Rientjes
2020-03-11  9:34     ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-03-11 19:38       ` David Rientjes
2020-03-11 22:04         ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-03-11 22:14           ` David Rientjes
2020-03-12  0:12             ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-03-12 18:07               ` David Rientjes
2020-03-12 22:32                 ` Andrew Morton
2020-03-16  9:31                   ` Michal Hocko
2020-03-16 10:04                     ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-03-16 10:14                       ` Michal Hocko
2020-03-13  0:15                 ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-03-13 22:01                   ` David Rientjes
2020-03-13 23:15                     ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-03-13 23:32                       ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-03-16 23:59                         ` David Rientjes
2020-03-17  3:18                           ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-03-17  4:09                             ` David Rientjes
2020-03-18  0:55                               ` [patch v2] " David Rientjes
2020-03-18  9:42                                 ` Michal Hocko
2020-03-18 21:40                                   ` David Rientjes
2020-03-18 22:03                                     ` [patch v3] " David Rientjes
2020-03-19  7:09                                       ` Michal Hocko
2020-03-12  4:23             ` [patch] " Tetsuo Handa
2020-03-10 22:10 ` Michal Hocko
2020-03-10 23:02   ` David Rientjes
2020-03-11  8:27     ` Michal Hocko
2020-03-11 19:45       ` David Rientjes [this message]
2020-03-12  8:32         ` Michal Hocko
2020-03-12 18:20           ` David Rientjes
2020-03-12 20:16             ` Michal Hocko
2020-03-16  9:32               ` Michal Hocko
2020-03-11  0:18 ` Andrew Morton
2020-03-11  0:34   ` David Rientjes
2020-03-11  8:36   ` Michal Hocko

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=alpine.DEB.2.21.2003111238570.171292@chino.kir.corp.google.com \
    --to=rientjes@google.com \
    --cc=akpm@linux-foundation.org \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-mm@kvack.org \
    --cc=mhocko@kernel.org \
    --cc=vbabka@suse.cz \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).