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From: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: Alex Shi <alex.shi@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Cgroups <cgroups@vger.kernel.org>,
	 LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	 Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	 Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,  Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>,  Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>,
	Daniel Jordan <daniel.m.jordan@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/14] per memcg lru_lock
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2019 11:24:44 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LSU.2.11.1908201038260.1286@eggly.anvils> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALvZod7-dL90jwd2pywpaD8NfUByVU9Y809+RfvJABGdRASYUg@mail.gmail.com>

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On Tue, 20 Aug 2019, Shakeel Butt wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 3:45 AM Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> wrote:
> > On Tue 20-08-19 17:48:23, Alex Shi wrote:
> > > This patchset move lru_lock into lruvec, give a lru_lock for each of
> > > lruvec, thus bring a lru_lock for each of memcg.
> > >
> > > Per memcg lru_lock would ease the lru_lock contention a lot in
> > > this patch series.
> > >
> > > In some data center, containers are used widely to deploy different kind
> > > of services, then multiple memcgs share per node pgdat->lru_lock which
> > > cause heavy lock contentions when doing lru operation.
> >
> > Having some real world workloads numbers would be more than useful
> > for a non trivial change like this. I believe googlers have tried
> > something like this in the past but then didn't have really a good
> > example of workloads that benefit. I might misremember though. Cc Hugh.
> >
> 
> We, at Google, have been using per-memcg lru locks for more than 7
> years. Per-memcg lru locks are really beneficial for providing
> performance isolation if there are multiple distinct jobs/memcgs
> running on large machines. We are planning to upstream our internal
> implementation. I will let Hugh comment on that.

Thanks for the Cc Michal.  As Shakeel says, Google prodkernel has been
using our per-memcg lru locks for 7 years or so.  Yes, we did not come
up with supporting performance data at the time of posting, nor since:
I see Alex has done much better on that (though I haven't even glanced
to see if +s are persuasive).

https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/2/20/434
was how ours was back then; some parts of that went in, then attached
lrulock417.tar is how it was the last time I rebased, to v4.17.

I'll set aside what I'm doing, and switch to rebasing ours to v5.3-rc
and/or mmotm.  Then compare with what Alex has, to see if there's any
good reason to prefer one to the other: if no good reason to prefer ours,
I doubt we shall bother to repost, but just use it as basis for helping
to review or improve Alex's.

Hugh

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  reply	other threads:[~2019-08-20 18:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-20  9:48 [PATCH 00/14] per memcg lru_lock Alex Shi
2019-08-20  9:48 ` [PATCH 01/14] mm/lru: move pgdat lru_lock into lruvec Alex Shi
2019-08-20 13:40   ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-08-20 14:11     ` Alex Shi
2019-08-20  9:48 ` [PATCH 02/14] lru/memcg: move the lruvec->pgdat sync out lru_lock Alex Shi
2019-08-20  9:48 ` [PATCH 03/14] lru/memcg: using per lruvec lock in un/lock_page_lru Alex Shi
2019-08-26  8:30   ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2019-08-26 14:16     ` Alex Shi
2019-08-20  9:48 ` [PATCH 04/14] lru/compaction: use per lruvec lock in isolate_migratepages_block Alex Shi
2019-08-20  9:48 ` [PATCH 05/14] lru/huge_page: use per lruvec lock in __split_huge_page Alex Shi
2019-08-20  9:48 ` [PATCH 06/14] lru/mlock: using per lruvec lock in munlock Alex Shi
2019-08-20  9:48 ` [PATCH 07/14] lru/swap: using per lruvec lock in page_cache_release Alex Shi
2019-08-20  9:48 ` [PATCH 08/14] lru/swap: uer lruvec lock in activate_page Alex Shi
2019-08-20  9:48 ` [PATCH 09/14] lru/swap: uer per lruvec lock in pagevec_lru_move_fn Alex Shi
2019-08-20  9:48 ` [PATCH 10/14] lru/swap: use per lruvec lock in release_pages Alex Shi
2019-08-20  9:48 ` [PATCH 11/14] lru/vmscan: using per lruvec lock in lists shrinking Alex Shi
2019-08-20  9:48 ` [PATCH 12/14] lru/vmscan: use pre lruvec lock in check_move_unevictable_pages Alex Shi
2019-08-20  9:48 ` [PATCH 13/14] lru/vmscan: using per lruvec lru_lock in get_scan_count Alex Shi
2019-08-20  9:48 ` [PATCH 14/14] mm/lru: fix the comments of lru_lock Alex Shi
2019-08-20 14:00   ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-08-20 14:21     ` Alex Shi
2019-08-20 10:45 ` [PATCH 00/14] per memcg lru_lock Michal Hocko
2019-08-20 16:48   ` Shakeel Butt
2019-08-20 18:24     ` Hugh Dickins [this message]
2019-08-21  1:21       ` Alex Shi
2019-08-21  2:00       ` Alex Shi
2019-08-24  1:59         ` Hugh Dickins
2019-08-26 14:35           ` Alex Shi
2019-08-21 18:00 ` Daniel Jordan
2019-08-22 11:56   ` Alex Shi
2019-08-22 15:20     ` Daniel Jordan
2019-08-26  8:39       ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2019-08-26 14:22         ` Alex Shi
2019-08-26 14:25       ` Alex Shi

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