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From: Ralf Ramsauer <ralf.ramsauer@oth-regensburg.de>
To: <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Cc: Wolfgang Mauerer <wolfgang.mauerer@oth-regensburg.de>,
	Mario Mintel <mario.mintel@st.oth-regensburg.de>
Subject: COW in userspace
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2021 15:13:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c3a9dd2c-0ee2-ad15-9ec0-93ae5aa6c9cc@oth-regensburg.de> (raw)

Dear mm folks,

I have an issue, where it would be great to have a COW-backed virtual
memory area within an userspace process. I know there's the possibility
to have a file-backed MAP_SHARED vma, which is later duplicated with
MAP_PRIVATE, but that's not exactly what I'm looking for.

Say I have an anonymous page-aligned VMA a, with MAP_PRIVATE and
PROT_RW. Userspace happily writes to/reads from it. At some point in
time, I want to 'snapshot' that single VMA within the context of the
process and without the need to fork(). Say there's something like

  a = mmap(0, len, PROT_RW, MAP_ANON | MAP_POPULATE, -1, 0);
  [... fill a ...]

  b = mmdup(a, len, PROT_READ);

b shall be the new base pointer of a new VMA that is backed by COW
mechanisms. After mmdup, those regular COW mechanisms do the rest: both
VMAs (a and b) will fault on subsequent writes and duplicate the
previously shared physical mapping, pretty much what cow_fault or
shared_fault does.

Afaict, this, or at least something like this is currently not supported
by the kernel. Is that correct? If so, why? Generally spoken, is it a
bad idea?

I digged a bit into the mm code, and I think all the stuff that would be
required is already there, so I wonder what I'm missing.


This is some related work I found on that topic:

https://sfb876.tu-dortmund.de/PublicPublicationFiles/kotthaus_2016a.pdf

They implement mmapcopy(), which pretty much would fulfill my
requirements. However, I still wonder why the kernel doesn't support
something like that by default, so maybe some mm expert could shed light
on this.

Any suggestions welcome!

Thanks
  Ralf


             reply	other threads:[~2021-08-20 13:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-08-20 13:13 Ralf Ramsauer [this message]
2021-08-20 23:12 ` COW in userspace Jerome Glisse
2021-08-23  8:02 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-08-23 10:16   ` [EXT] " Ralf Ramsauer
2021-08-23 10:33     ` David Hildenbrand
2021-08-23 10:49       ` Ralf Ramsauer

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