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From: Alexander Duyck <alexander.h.duyck@linux.intel.com>
To: Nitesh Narayan Lal <nitesh@redhat.com>,
	Alexander Duyck <alexander.duyck@gmail.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, david@redhat.com,  mst@redhat.com,
	dave.hansen@intel.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	 linux-mm@kvack.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org
Cc: yang.zhang.wz@gmail.com, pagupta@redhat.com, riel@surriel.com,
	 konrad.wilk@oracle.com, willy@infradead.org,
	lcapitulino@redhat.com,  wei.w.wang@intel.com,
	aarcange@redhat.com, pbonzini@redhat.com,
	 dan.j.williams@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/6] mm / virtio: Provide support for unused page reporting
Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2019 16:15:23 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c43723f2acdf257309dca55eac900dc71bca31c3.camel@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ac434f1cad234920c0e75fe809ac05053395524b.camel@linux.intel.com>

On Fri, 2019-08-02 at 10:28 -0700, Alexander Duyck wrote:
> On Fri, 2019-08-02 at 12:19 -0400, Nitesh Narayan Lal wrote:
> > On 8/2/19 11:13 AM, Alexander Duyck wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2019-08-02 at 10:41 -0400, Nitesh Narayan Lal wrote:
> > > > On 8/1/19 6:24 PM, Alexander Duyck wrote:
> > > > > 

<snip>

> > > > > One side effect of these patches is that the guest becomes much more
> > > > > resilient in terms of NUMA locality. With the pages being freed and then
> > > > > reallocated when used it allows for the pages to be much closer to the
> > > > > active thread, and as a result there can be situations where this patch
> > > > > set will out-perform the stock kernel when the guest memory is not local
> > > > > to the guest vCPUs.
> > > > Was this the reason because of which you were seeing better results for
> > > > page_fault1 earlier?
> > > Yes I am thinking so. What I have found is that in the case where the
> > > patches are not applied on the guest it takes a few runs for the numbers
> > > to stabilize. What I think was going on is that I was running memhog to
> > > initially fill the guest and that was placing all the pages on one node or
> > > the other and as such was causing additional variability as the pages were
> > > slowly being migrated over to the other node to rebalance the workload.
> > > One way I tested it was by trying the unpatched case with a direct-
> > > assigned device since that forces it to pin the memory. In that case I was
> > > getting bad results consistently as all the memory was forced to come from
> > > one node during the pre-allocation process.
> > > 
> > 
> > I have also seen that the page_fault1 values take some time to get stabilize on
> > an unmodified kernel.
> > What I am wondering here is that if on a single NUMA guest doing the following
> > will give the right/better idea or not:
> > 
> > 1. Pin the guest to a single NUMA node.
> > 2. Run memhog so that it touches all the guest memory.
> > 3. Run will-it-scale/page_fault1.
> > 
> > Compare/observe the values for the last core (this is considering the other core
> > values doesn't drastically differ).
> 
> I'll rerun the test with qemu affinitized to one specific socket. It will
> cut the core/thread count down to 8/16 on my test system. Also I will try
> with THP and page shuffling enabled.

Okay so results with 8/16 all affinitized to one socket, THP enabled
page_fault1, and shuffling enabled:

With page reporting disabled in the hypervisor there wasn't much
difference. I saw a range of 0.69% to -1.35% versus baseline, and an
average of 0.16% improvement. So effectively no change.

With page reporting enabled I saw a range of -2.10% to -4.50%, with an
average of -3.05% regression. This is much closer to what I would expect
for this patch set as the page faulting, double zeroing (once in host, and
once in guest), and hinting process itself should have some overhead.


      reply	other threads:[~2019-08-02 23:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-01 22:24 [PATCH v3 0/6] mm / virtio: Provide support for unused page reporting Alexander Duyck
2019-08-01 22:27 ` [PATCH v3 1/6] mm: Adjust shuffle code to allow for future coalescing Alexander Duyck
2019-08-01 22:29 ` [PATCH v3 2/6] mm: Move set/get_pcppage_migratetype to mmzone.h Alexander Duyck
2019-08-01 22:31 ` [PATCH v3 3/6] mm: Use zone and order instead of free area in free_list manipulators Alexander Duyck
2019-08-01 22:33 ` [PATCH v3 4/6] mm: Introduce Reported pages Alexander Duyck
2019-08-05 14:05   ` Nitesh Narayan Lal
2019-08-05 15:11     ` Alexander Duyck
2019-08-01 22:36 ` [PATCH v3 5/6] virtio-balloon: Pull page poisoning config out of free page hinting Alexander Duyck
2019-08-01 22:38 ` [PATCH v3 6/6] virtio-balloon: Add support for providing unused page reports to host Alexander Duyck
2019-08-05 16:00   ` Nitesh Narayan Lal
2019-08-05 16:27     ` Alexander Duyck
2019-08-06 11:31       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-06 15:16         ` Alexander Duyck
2019-08-06 15:40           ` Nitesh Narayan Lal
2019-08-01 22:41 ` [PATCH v3 QEMU 1/2] virtio-ballon: Implement support for page poison tracking feature Alexander Duyck
2019-08-01 22:43 ` [PATCH v3 QEMU 2/2] virtio-balloon: Provide a interface for unused page reporting Alexander Duyck
2019-08-02 20:40   ` Nitesh Narayan Lal
2019-08-02 20:58     ` Alexander Duyck
2019-08-02 14:41 ` [PATCH v3 0/6] mm / virtio: Provide support " Nitesh Narayan Lal
2019-08-02 15:13   ` Alexander Duyck
2019-08-02 16:19     ` Nitesh Narayan Lal
2019-08-02 17:28       ` Alexander Duyck
2019-08-02 23:15         ` Alexander Duyck [this message]

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